agree

So that new annoying sng popup after you bust on stars made me go from a 8 second table close delay to instant. And it has me thinking. Even without that popup is it worth the delay? Sure you can mark bustout hands but i know i personally am more likely to mark standard hands when i bust in them. And you have the added downside of being ablle to cycle back and see how you busted and mentally knowing that youve busted, which for me at least puts me in a negative mood when grinding.

Hopefully it gets people to register a few more games than they otherwise would.

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anyone using PT4 for sngs? /QUOTE]

PT4 is a great program. Definitely tracks your results close to 100% correct. Only tourneys I have to edit are those rebuy tourneys where the addon is a larger fee than the rebuy.

It has tracked all forms of my SnGs correctly on all different sites. Even tracks multi-entry, re-entry, and rebuy tournaments correctly. Something that HM1 never did for me.

The few gripes I have about it for SnGs:

1) If you are one to like to use a separate HuD when entering Heads Up you have to do it manually on PT4. You have to manually switch to a Head's Up HuD when entering the Heads Up stage of a tourney. On Holdem Manager 1 you can have it auto switch for you.

2) I don't have any good stacksize popups for PT4. Other people have made some but I haven't found any available to the public. Something that shows VPIP/PFR for different stacksizes as can be found in HM1 and HM2 would be nice. You can definitely filter for stacksizes in the HuD settings though.

Most of the other stuff is the same or can be replicated in PT4 once you get use to the different stat names used in PT4. It's a much cleaner product in my opinion than HM2. Still love HM1. I still sometimes use HM1 for SnGs but much prefer PT4 for data-basing my results and reviewing my game.

gramps did you even read my post or are you being extra cryptic?

I mean that if it helps rec. players play a few more games, I figure us regs can deal with whatever consequences flow to ourselves/mental states . I like rec-friendly features like that one, it definitely helps people get more action at HU at least (I think?).

But was trying to make the general point in connection with the comment, without seeming like I was refuting your individual concerns, hence the cryptic-ness

I was only mentioning it to bring up why i switched back to autoclosing tables wo delay. Question was supposed to be aboutwhether not being able to mark bustout hands is made up for by not being distracted cycling back to busted hands, seeing how you busted, becoming tilted, etc.

Yeah i like the new feature and dont mind dealing with the hassle as i think its good for the games.

Do PT4 has $ev now?

My gripe about PT4 is the built-in stack-size HUD filters are pretty bad, especially for low blinds. They're nearly useless for the 10bb super-turbos I play. For example, 5bb and 10bb stacks are forced to use the same filter. I asked about getting more/better options and was essentially told to eat a bag.

It has (the more appropriately named) "Net Adjusted Winnings", which is it's version of HEM's $EV/redline.

$EV really mean something for these tournaments? What exactly is it calculating?

I think in SNGs the insta closure is good and definitely is compensated for appropriately due to reasons you've stated. I think in other games this is not necessarily true though.

Yes, it does. But not sure if you're asking about the definition of $EV or about the HEM redline.

I don't have a problem with the pop up, but it doesn't need to take focus when it pops up. Most rec players aren't stacking, so it's not an issue for them. Keep the popup but don't make it snatch that table to the front multiple times after I bust.

So we can post hands here now? Watch me be a nit

Poker Stars $14.41+$0.59 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t90/t180 Blinds + t18 - 3 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BB: t241 M = 0.74
Hero (BTN): t509 M = 1.57
SB: t2250 M = 6.94

Pre Flop: (t324) Hero is BTN with A 8
Hero calls t180, SB calls t90, BB checks

Flop: (t594) 4 8 A (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t594) 4 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

River: (t594) 5 (3 players)
SB bets t360, BB folds, Hero folds

Thoughts?

Dont mind your line if its a sattie...

Limping could be good vs certain villains. But i think you gotta jam that flop.

BB was a tight fish that had no concept of fold equity and such, so I preferred limping over minraising since I felt like SB was never going to fold to a minraise (he was a reg), but BB could very well fold when it gets to him, esp if I MR and SB decides to shove over it which very well could happen 100% of the time if I MR vs that type of BB.

On the flop I was contemplating jamming but once again I felt like BB could very well fold if that happens and I was hoping the BB was eventually going to just stick it in himself. Also if I wait until the river my hand is going to look like the nuts so often I wasn't afraid of waiting, obv 2 pretty disgusting cards came that made my hand not look like the nuts .

I think your line is fine bbfg

You cant r/f vs that sb. Its either limp or jam. If bb is gonna fold to shove when sb folds ever its snap jam imo.

I had battles with good hu reg Janeka***








we snap fold river given lolodds?







I feel like herofold? WUG?








sippins hyper thread taught me to shove against most but I dont believe it against good reg?

bbfg,
Can't imagine not shoving flop

entim,
1 could be fine
2 can't fold
3 if you don't like raise fold go all in pf

Recently switched to HM2 partly so I could get notecaddy edge SNG. Its ok I guess, most of the badges that notecaddy edge have designed are for deep play (deep in turbos, I dont play hypers but I don't think a hyper player would get much out of it). Plus there's some things that it could be useful to have badges for that are really obviously relevant to sng play (shove and call shove ranges for example) that aren't there.

I've designed some badges myself, would be very interested in what other players are doing with this but seems like not many using it for sngs yet.

thanks for the info. hows ur stability, everyone says hm 2 sucks???

these spots piss me off:
65/35

40/80 blinds
B 400 -folds
SB 700 -shoves
BB 680 -hero

with sb shoving 100%, across 3 ICM programs the highest hero call % is 16.9%. i want to snap this off wider vs any two, i feel we're getting abused, he only has 20 more chips than us and shorty still has plenty of wiggle room, he does got the blinds coming into him though which deters a call for sure. Is it automatic -EV if i call wider than 16.9%?

Well if SB is the type that will adapt to you calling lighter you can start a "punishment period" and call wider, since you will both be losing money if he doesn't adapt (and the BTN is very happy ). The problem is it is hard to know wether it is worth it to start punishing vs a certain reg. Most esp in lower stakes just don't give a **** and keep shoving ATC or near ATC in those spots.

tyty