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Originally Posted by SharkScope
Just to reiterate a post we made previously. We'd love to comply with PokerStars requests - as being an allowed service on PokerStars would greatly benefit our business. However when we asked for clarification from Josem as to which stats could be shown by default, we were told nothing can be shown, from which whether a player is a winner or a loser can be inferred. That means effectively that no data other than number of games played can be shown as as you rightly point out it can be inferred from virtually any other statistic.
Even an arbitrary rating number from 0 to 100 cannot be used, because a 0 would always be a loser and 100 would always be a winner. We proposed a number of compromises that would have made it harder to work out if a player had won or lost money and hence solve the vast majority of the abusive issues but all were rejected.
No tracking sites out there, even the ones that claim to comply, comply with these rules that Josem stated to us, and we would have no useful service if we just showed the number of games played by default.
Hence we cannot comply with the rules.
Maybe we should move this to it's own thread. I was under the impression you could show total winnings, total # of games and avg. BI. Josem can you clarify is this true or not?
The site Josem linked shows avg. profit but he says they're going to change that.
Edit: Josem just sent me the rules. There's nothing that says you can't show how profitable a player is in the roundabout way I described. Also he's confirmed that via AIM that he doesn't think PS has a problem with total winnings, avg. BI and # of games shown by default. I think you're being a little disingenuous by saying all you can show is total # of games.
1. No player profitability data (i.e. ROI, net profit, etc) may be
displayed on any player unless the player has explicitly opted into
such display by transferring $0.03 to a prominently published
PokerStars account owned by the Service Operator. This request must be
acknowledged by the Service Operator by sending the $0.03 back to the
player as confirmation within a reasonable time frame not to exceed 5
days.
Last edited by suzzer99; 02-26-2009 at 08:03 PM.