love this tbh.

We've talked about this in the recent past. The main issue is that only half of what gets paid out to the players goes to the normal prize pool, so to get the same min payouts that you'd get in a normal (non-PSKO) prize pool, you'd have to pay half the field as you normally would. In other words, instead of using a 10% prize table (for example), we'd need to use a 5% prize table. I don't think that's a good idea.

I think that the main issue with this tournament is the fact that it's up against a number of other tournaments which are each quite popular and doing well all around it, including a $27 6-Max ($10K Gtd), The Hot $33 ($30K Gtd), and an $8.80+R ($12K Gtd). The best solution for the $55 NLHE FO might be to move it. 10:00 is pretty open, with only the Big $75 up against it... but putting a $55 right up against The Big $75 is not a great idea. Perhaps moving the $27 6-Max would work, though. Hmm. We'll discuss this.

the 8r 12k gtd you mentioned above,needs some more gtd love,esp on sundays

Mentioned it be4 that that 10:00 is pretty open compared to 10:30, move the 55 back 10k guarantee give it a week see how it does or else you could throw a daily eliminator in there and make it bigger on Sundays

I actually agree with Bryan here. In PSKOs, I think regs should just not care about the first 50% of the payouts (to be honest, most of us don't really care for the bottom 50% of freezeouts anyways). It's a different format where, right up to the final tables, bust outs are actually worth more than the payouts and that seems fine to me.

Ye moving the $55 6k back 30 mins sounds good to me.

Is a big block of stuff to reg at its current timeshot and not much at the big 75.

Do it.

do it

do it

do it.

but ffs dont do this:

+1

Bryan, can you discuss the method that Pokerstars is going to use to refund bounty tournaments that were cancelled during the server issues?

Is this method applicable for a PKO tournament with 3 players left and a PKO tournament with 80 players left?

If this method is used for refunds, should players have the ability to use this method (or a variation of this method) for deal making purposes at a final table? It only seems fair as this has issues has not been addressed, despite PKOs being in existence for almost a year.

Currently, even after a deal is agreed upon between two players in a PKO, the difference between 1st and 2nd is still substantial relative to the buyin. Players aren't provided the option of chopping 100% of the money that is rightfully theirs.

bit heavy on the sound logic for my personal tastes

do it

But why? It is one of the best idea out there and I see no good reason not to add them!

I think its a great idea. 10% payout structures are the norm because mtts with all of the buyin going to the payout structure have been the norm. Psko is something new and theres no reason to hold on to the 10% payout structure except "tradition". With players receiving knockouts and making cash all the way from the beginning of the tournament you dont need to pay 10% of the field to keep players coming back. 7-5% payout structure would make the mincash have more strategic value in a psko and also make the top prizes bigger.

Did the people who are against antes from the start bring forward their arguments?
I think it would be a huge improvement and I cannot really see any downsides to it so I would be very interested in what I am missing.

I remember when we brought about the argument to just have antes from 30/60 there were a lot of people against it. Wonder where those people went.

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completly agree, no reason at all, to not have ante from the beginning.

$33 cubed currently 10 left, 8 paid, not hand for hand. 1188372927

bryan now that you have a specific iteration of this happening, please expend some resources to get the problem fixed universally. it has happened to me at least 5 times in the last month and cost me equity on multiple occasions

no idea why nobody else is noticing, guess i'm over observant :P

No idea why stars does not like money......

Nothing more deflated then being excited to reg a 1k and bust it early on from a lean and nothing else to look forwarded to.
Even ACR has a 2nd chance from there 500 1mill Gtd and the thing gets real big as well as the main.

Their faulty fisher price computers and math guys say no
Nope cant do it, dont want to take away from the "real thing" When infact it doesnt matter.

You notice the dead days are Monday and Friday?? Kinda wierd how there are no big Nlh tournaments that day maybe they go together?.

Apologize for the negativity but man any good idea thats come out of here from a reg that has infact been implemented to stars has been a huge hit.

#DontKill2ndchanceIdea #Getthereeeeeeeeee

I'm sorry but this is completely false. I went back through the last like 15 pages when ppl started talking about earlier antes:

-20 people wanted earlier antes
-1 person was against it
-2 ppl said -1 to antes from the start and a couple of the ppl who wanted earlier antes said it should be earlier but not from the start

Plenty of well thought out reasoning was given for earlier antes as well as antes from the start and absolutely 0 reasoning was given for not having earlier antes or antes from the start.

There is a completely and utterly overwhelming consensus from this thread and from everyone I've talked to/heard ppl say, that there should be earlier antes. Maybe there isn't an overwhelming consensus for antes level 1, but it still looks like the majority wants that and I have yet to see an argument against it.

Yea really no downsides by making mini version of the Thursday thrill atleast. $109 buyin would be perfect. Everyone loves pkos but everyone can not afford $1k for the thrill.

I can understand that a Mini super Tuesday may not work as good as it would be similar to Big 109.

+1, every reg I talk to say the same

daily 109 six max prog??....

Ya, i think everyone agrees that earlier the antes the better, also everyone agrees that the 109 Re-entry turbo should instead become the Hot 162.