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***OFFICIAL Stars 2015 MTT Discussion Thread*** ***OFFICIAL Stars 2015 MTT Discussion Thread***

08-14-2015 , 11:39 AM
Just because rebuy prizepools are up doesn't mean they are more successful of a tourney. Particpation is down, its just people are forced to buy in more that doesn't mean success.

Long term success is what we are striving for.

200r imo will die off with new structure, nobody si going to want to put in 1400 into thing. Particpation is down in that because the people that come out when the stars are bright are not on the grind.

I think its a shame 30r and 50r are not getting love.

You took away 22 action hour six max? Can we have it replaced somewhere with 11r version or 5r version with a decent guarantee? Thought this was suggested and accepted.

Is it possible to make action hour Prog ko? That thing would get pretty intense. Imagine the gambling in that "action hour" going for kos.

plus one to a normal 109 prog ko mid day somewhere.

big 215? =(

Hope you see the importance of Gtds, and how much they effect tournaments.
08-14-2015 , 11:49 AM
Hi Luke,

Can we please get FPP Mega-Path hyper sattys implemented for all Bigs, Hots, and red labeled tournaments? It could only benefit everyone. I am referring to the ones that are currently running for the Big 109, Sunday Million, etc.
08-14-2015 , 12:03 PM
Why have you messed about with the sunday 109r?

Your just forcing out alot of midstakes regs who shottake it and force higher stakes regs to rebuy more.

Hardly a win is it guess we will see how many runners it gets and how many people buy in at the break and stall for 25 minutes to get in as cheap as possible.

It was fine as it was and only saw one person ask it to be changed.

You changed all the other rebuys to this structure and things have hardly improved by the looks of the 33r.

This was the one that didn't need changing imo.
08-14-2015 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by U shove i call
Why have you messed about with the sunday 109r?

Your just forcing out alot of midstakes regs who shottake it and force higher stakes regs to rebuy more.

Hardly a win is it guess we will see how many runners it gets and how many people buy in at the break and stall for 25 minutes to get in as cheap as possible.

It was fine as it was and only saw one person ask it to be changed.

You changed all the other rebuys to this structure and things have hardly improved by the looks of the 33r.

This was the one that didn't need changing imo.

already had 4-5 people tell me they are skipping it now... =(
08-14-2015 , 12:27 PM
How about making a progressive red label that have the same buy ins as hot and big?

Then we would have The Big $11, The Hot $11, The Prog $11. The Big $109, The Hot $109, The Prog $109. And so on.

7 min levels, the best of both worlds.
08-14-2015 , 12:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by U shove i call
Why have you messed about with the sunday 109r?

Your just forcing out alot of midstakes regs who shottake it and force higher stakes regs to rebuy more.

Hardly a win is it guess we will see how many runners it gets and how many people buy in at the break and stall for 25 minutes to get in as cheap as possible.

It was fine as it was and only saw one person ask it to be changed.

You changed all the other rebuys to this structure and things have hardly improved by the looks of the 33r.

This was the one that didn't need changing imo.
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Originally Posted by rounder63
already had 4-5 people tell me they are skipping it now... =(
You both are literally giving the argument as to why rebuy formats are not popular and are dieing. People are no longer interested in spending more money rebuying extra chips.
08-14-2015 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DoGGz
You both are literally giving the argument as to why rebuy formats are not popular and are dieing. People are no longer interested in spending more money rebuying extra chips.
This is not true, You put Gtd on them people come. 20k during the week is 200 on sunday the people come. Don't fix something that is not broken imo.
08-14-2015 , 12:50 PM
But why not just put that same GTD on a game people would rather play? Thats the whole issue.
08-14-2015 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by U shove i call
It was fine as it was and only saw one person ask it to be changed.
I didn't necessarily ask for it to be changed, but I do think they should be consistent. When you see the 100r in the lobby it should have about the same structure on Sunday as the rest of the week, and the 200r should be the same. People shouldn't have to look at the structure and figure out how many buyins they'll need to spend.

I don't like the new structure because the larger add on gives more of an incentive to late reg and stall instead of promoting gambling and building a stack.
08-14-2015 , 01:14 PM
If bog215 was implemented before WCOOP I will name my first born baby (regardless of gender) as Luke.
08-14-2015 , 01:31 PM
Still got plenty of love for MTT community

So here is a chance at some free cash if your are lucky/good

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/16...-30th-1552541/
08-14-2015 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tl65\
I don't like the new structure because the larger add on gives more of an incentive to late reg and stall instead of promoting gambling and building a stack.
come on buddy, you have been latereg + addoning in rebuys for years now
08-14-2015 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by random btn
come on buddy, you have been latereg + addoning in rebuys for years now
08-14-2015 , 05:00 PM
i want to take a look at sunday rebuy with new structure b4 saying anything, we allways asked for a rebuy period of gamble, now we got one and ppl r complaining...

Lets take a look at that first, and then try suggestions, it rly could work in a big field
08-14-2015 , 05:07 PM
b4 i forget, wwhy did u change ur mind about a bigger GTD at the sunday 55r Luke? I thought it was going very well with a 10k GTD
08-14-2015 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by random btn
come on buddy, you have been latereg + addoning in rebuys for years now
yes, and i'll continue to do so as long as it makes sense. I'd prefer to reg from the start and gamble it up, but as long as the add-on is better value than rebuys it doesnt make sense.
08-14-2015 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tl65\
yes, and i'll continue to do so as long as it makes sense. I'd prefer to reg from the start and gamble it up, but as long as the add-on is better value than rebuys it doesnt make sense.
Ladies and Gentlemen,

Why rebuys in 2015 suck.

EDIT: Regs exploit structures, don't gamble. This is terrible for any rec who wants to play it as a rebuy. Tournament is boring. Recs go play spins where they can actually gamble.

I've always been in favor of smaller addons to make latereg/addon exploiting less viable.

Last edited by DoGGz; 08-14-2015 at 06:04 PM.
08-14-2015 , 06:22 PM
Yeah and if you make the addon the same as the rebuy, recs that do like rebuys complain that "you don't get any chips for your addon". Not sure what the solution is.
08-14-2015 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by norfair18
+1 have thought this exact idea. Put the regspeed in red and slap a nice guarantee on it and instantly becomes one of the most popular daily tournaments
I've been saying this for weeks. It is such an obvious change to make the 109 prsko a reg speed and the later 82 a turbo. It is just such an easy and incredibly popular change that needs to be made.
08-14-2015 , 06:43 PM
Maybe something like $100 buyin=2k chips, rebuys $50=2k chips , add on $100=4k would work? Might be a little confusing at first but you'd still be rebuying from 0 to a full stack for $100. And it gives incentive to reg from the start and gamble.
08-14-2015 , 06:45 PM
Also pre ante poker is the nut low. Wayyy too many nits who literally fold for an hour straight. PLS implement antes from the start or at least sooner. That should be the case in every tournament. Allows for much more exciting play, punishes nits and is favoured by both regs and recs. Do it pls!
08-14-2015 , 06:59 PM
Give 1-3% of the prizepool to the biggest stack after the rebuyperiod? get that gamboool going
08-14-2015 , 07:03 PM
do not make the 82 a turbo. even the offpeak one that runs at 2am EST and replaced the old 77 6m turbo (a great game btw), is now unbeatable because of rake. the rake is absurd in such a small field. 37.5 + 37.5 + 7. yea, no thanks. would be even worse as a FR event that runs during the end of peak

im all for making the 109 a reg speed, but dont cannibalize other games to make an already great game more playable
08-14-2015 , 07:18 PM
also think the 82prog have to keep as regular speed. Its not everybody that start their session early in the day
08-14-2015 , 07:40 PM
People complaining about other people playing sub optimally!

Grind out those extra lives boys.

      
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