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***OFFICIAL Stars 2015 MTT Discussion Thread*** ***OFFICIAL Stars 2015 MTT Discussion Thread***

07-13-2015 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by HorvatH
When they had a Sunday Storm twice a day...

This is cool, but not really representative for nowadays with so many countries out of the player pool. But this is basically the big 11 now.

+1 to rebuy week, sounds cool.
07-14-2015 , 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by HorvatH
When they had a Sunday Storm twice a day...

Good ol' days
07-14-2015 , 01:26 PM
Agree with the guys, we definitely have to stand for Rebuy tournaments.
It's ridiculous that stars keep killing them. Obviously, they are not happy that nowadays they do have overlays in them, but what do you except? That fun player will jump in to $55+R that has only $5k GTD or $109 2R1A with $5k GTD?
Stars already removed probably half of the rebuy tournies : $33R 1R1A / 55$ 1R1A / $33 2R1A
Last year there were no problems with overlays and because the GTD's was attractive to all sorts of players : recreational/professional.
Lowering the GTD's isn't solution here, making the tournaments attractive is, and PokerStars should start doing that by increasing the GTD's.
Also we do have Freezeout red tournaments (The Big) & Turbos (The Hot) we should also have Rebuy red tournaments, which will attract tons of players as all red tournaments does. Making the most obvious tournaments as a test for red rebuy (Evening 11R / 3R / 33R / 55R) would be a great start.


Please consider it Pokerstars.
The games are getting drier, but it's not because people don't want to play, it's because games are getting not attractive to play.
07-14-2015 , 01:56 PM
Can I posit that recreationals are turned off rebuys for another reason which seems obvious to me in this thread? All I see in this thread are regs talking about ways to get recs to splash more, changing late reg times, making stacks shallower bla bla, all with the aim of getting recs to fire loads of bullets and bloat the prize pool.

Recs aren't stupid. They know rebuys are just them subsidising better players by bloating the prize pool. I don't particularly care about guarantees - I'm just turned off by tournaments where everyone is motivated by greed and getting bad/weaker players to bloat the prize pool.
07-14-2015 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PlasticPearl
Can I posit that recreationals are turned off rebuys for another reason which seems obvious to me in this thread? All I see in this thread are regs talking about ways to get recs to splash more, changing late reg times, making stacks shallower bla bla, all with the aim of getting recs to fire loads of bullets and bloat the prize pool.

Recs aren't stupid. They know rebuys are just them subsidising better players by bloating the prize pool. I don't particularly care about guarantees - I'm just turned off by tournaments where everyone is motivated by greed and getting bad/weaker players to bloat the prize pool.

what a ridiculously misinformed and ******ed post
07-14-2015 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by PlasticPearl
Can I posit that recreationals are turned off rebuys for another reason which seems obvious to me in this thread? All I see in this thread are regs talking about ways to get recs to splash more, changing late reg times, making stacks shallower bla bla, all with the aim of getting recs to fire loads of bullets and bloat the prize pool.

Recs aren't stupid. They know rebuys are just them subsidising better players by bloating the prize pool. I don't particularly care about guarantees - I'm just turned off by tournaments where everyone is motivated by greed and getting bad/weaker players to bloat the prize pool.
It's not like that at all, honestly I do hate the extended rebuy periods, as it's now harder for new players to shot at higher BI rebuys, where as before you can play comfortably with single buy-in + add-on and in my opinion that does effect the overall attendance of rebuy tournaments.

Recs splashing in rebuy tournaments? What do you mean? You can splash in any tourney if you want to. Actually, I think no1 can't argue that rebuy tournaments are the best for recreational players to improve there game, as the structure of these tournaments is much deeper compared to daily freezeout mtt's.
07-14-2015 , 02:37 PM
ok wsop is as good as over

now raise the gtd's as you promised
07-14-2015 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by LittleGoliath
ok wsop is as good as over

now raise the gtd's as you promised
It's not finished until November! (This will be the next excuse ldo)
07-14-2015 , 04:14 PM
Rebuys used to be awesome cos we would just lag it and jam atc into each other for an hour and have fun. Those days are gone, all the guys counting every $0.01 they can squeeze. Life is tough out there.
07-14-2015 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by grindinlikeadegen
what a ridiculously misinformed and ******ed post
Please enlighten us o wise one.

Whether what I say is right or not, it's how some people feel.

FYI, it's 2015, casual use of the word ******ed isn't really acceptable any more...
07-14-2015 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Aurum
Actually, I think no1 can't argue that rebuy tournaments are the best for recreational players to improve there game, as the structure of these tournaments is much deeper compared to daily freezeout mtt's.
Yeah but come on, that's not why you're all arguing for is it? If you were all arguing for deep stacks you'd ask for more deep stack tournaments not rebuys. Like it or not, you all like rebuys because of the bloated prize pools. Which is fine, but I think even recs are past the point of wanting to fire off 5 or 6 bullets to bloat the prize pool. I personally avoid them because of that. Not saying they should go, but I for one am glad they're only a minor part of the schedule. Other opinions are welcomed of course.
07-14-2015 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by PlasticPearl
I'm just turned off by tournaments where everyone is motivated by greed and getting bad/weaker players to bloat the prize pool.
are you trying to describe poker or what
07-14-2015 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Alexo
are you trying to describe poker or what
Was thinking the same thing. It's just the way things are...
07-14-2015 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by PlasticPearl
Please enlighten us o wise one.

Whether what I say is right or not, it's how some people feel.

FYI, it's 2015, casual use of the word ******ed isn't really acceptable any more...
its how YOU feel, where as the majority of players love rebuys. OBVIOUSLY because of "bloated" prizepools. And your argument for just add more deepstack tournaments is invalid because most players dont enjoy playing a 14hour tournament


"I'm just turned off by tournaments where everyone is motivated by greed and getting bad/weaker players to bloat the prize pool".

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Originally Posted by Alexo
are you trying to describe poker or what
Exactly this is the entire point of poker

Last edited by grindinlikeadegen; 07-14-2015 at 05:10 PM.
07-14-2015 , 05:42 PM
deepstacks def need further tweaking , #tweakthedeep
07-14-2015 , 11:24 PM
@grindinglikeadegen are you this new canadian reg, you seem to post in here like you been around for a while

http://www.officialpokerrankings.com...D696A.html?t=3

it just seems odd you post here as if you have been around for a long time, plus the fact that "degengrind" started playing 1 week before your 2p2 account was created.

why don't you tell us a bit more about your history on stars grindnlikeadegen?

#ghostbusting

Last edited by 26sk8er; 07-14-2015 at 11:30 PM.
07-14-2015 , 11:45 PM
why is it any of your business? I like to keep my identity private thank you. Go email stars if you think im a "ghost/cheater" mr detective.

Im just here to post in this thread and help get the mtt schedule improved.
07-14-2015 , 11:59 PM
well the account degengrind + the fact your 2p2 sn was created 2 days after degengrind played its first game and has played 899 games in 6 days is a little suspect, the account degengrind is also from canada, and you seem to speak fluid english, plus you seem as if you have played on stars for a long time by the tone of your 2p2 posts.

The account degen grind has also had some notable results including a 10th in big 162 on its second day of play.
07-15-2015 , 12:03 AM
brian hastings itt
07-15-2015 , 12:35 AM
Is this for real? You're way out of line accusing someone because their screen name has "degen" in it and they're "from Canada". Canada is fckkng huge and most poker players like using the word degen. PM him to discuss, don't just assume and accuse.
07-15-2015 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by gregz41
As August approaches, can we discuss the idea of expanding the bigs and hots while getting some much appreciated thoughts from you, Luke?

I remember Brian saying that adding a Big $215 was difficult with the current schedule. How about we convert the $215 turbo and move it back 15 mins so it is in the SM spot. Let it run as the B215 from Monday to Saturday and then on Sunday it becomes the Milly? It's a nice time apart from the B109 and B162. The inclusion of this will also provide increase in traffic to the surrounding games as seen in the data provided by the B75.

B82 and H82 should be added to a spot where midstakes games are weak. I'd advocate including these into the nightly schedule to make grinding late more attractive.

Convert the B27.50 into the B27 to utilise the step system. Then you'd have, I think, the H162 and H27 as the only two hots that don't have a sister buy in in terms of Bigs? H27 should be an easy convert somewhere on the schedule. While the H162 would provide a more difficult challenge. Convert one of the late night 109 turbo re-entries. The re-entry format has proved unpopular with players with gtds being dropped well below what they were when the tournament used to be 2x chances. My other suggestion would be to convert the 109 turbo near the B44.
All of this. Please respond to this one Luke!
07-15-2015 , 01:22 AM
hey he s 26sk8er h s cool al his posts are always in line not sure what u re on about
07-15-2015 , 01:58 AM
No one at the time was even asking for a 109psko turbo peak time or a 1k Thursday thrill iirc. star just added/converted them on their own yet they smashed expectations. Just makes u wonder how great stars could be if they took the consensus good ideas from this thread, like Saturday 2day, 109 mini st/thrills, b215, b82, how come no daily 109 psko major yet hellooooo anybody home
07-15-2015 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by norfair18
No one at the time was even asking for a 109psko turbo peak time or a 1k Thursday thrill iirc. star just added/converted them on their own yet they smashed expectations. Just makes u wonder how great stars could be if they took the consensus good ideas from this thread, like Saturday 2day, 109 mini st/thrills, b215, b82, how come no daily 109 psko major yet hellooooo anybody home
big plus 1
07-15-2015 , 02:11 AM
small plus wan mirrion

      
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