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12-14-2014 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jnfpoker
$215 6max PKO is a great tourney, you should make it a weekly major.
this!
12-14-2014 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Omahaha
Great to see the Weekly 215's back again!

However I think both the time changes and the lack of any MTT satellites are both substantial mistakes.
FLO8 time is good imho, PLO(8) and NLO8 however might be better off starting 1 hour later.

And satellites ofc...
12-15-2014 , 04:25 AM
A quick note on the Daily $27s which are on the way. They're still on the way, but they won't be coming today as originally planned. There will be a bit of a delay, which should hopefully only be a couple of days.
12-15-2014 , 06:35 AM
Which $27's are these Bryan (or anyone), what format?

Must have missed an update.
12-15-2014 , 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Danshiel350
Which $27's are these Bryan (or anyone), what format?

Must have missed an update.
Congratulations on your 1000th post.

Daily $27 regards to this

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Originally Posted by BryanS-PS
After some discussion, we've decided to go with Daily $27s in the games which need a bridge between the current offerings and the Weekly $82s. Some games don't need such a bridge, so they likely won't have the Daily $27s. Each Daily $27 will be painted red, live in Tourney/Special, and will have satellites running to it. In this way, we'll build the 'niche' games step-by-step, and hopefully grow each game that much more along the way.
12-15-2014 , 06:57 AM
I had a go at proposing a new NLH "red tournament" schedule. Obviously this is just an example but I think it offers lots of benefits.

- It doesn't change the schedule too much, almost all current tournaments are in either the same spots or virtually the same.
- It makes the red tournaments a bit less random/more organised. In the proposed schedule reg speeds are on the hour, turbos (& threw in some hypers) are on the half hour. And this is every hour throughout the day.
- It pads out the off-peak schedule a fair bit which has been suggested many times in the thread
- Potential room for a Big $215 in spot near to what has been suggested, and also a Hot $215 in a nice spot (I thought you could swap the 7.45pm $215 turbo for the $109 cubed turbo at 9.30pm).
- Euro and Pacific Nightlys added; Euro Nightlys suggested in thread recently, and helps Bigs keep unique buy-ins (Don't have to have the Big $18 or whatever).

12-15-2014 , 07:05 AM
Haha, ty.
Had no idea the landmark was coming but really plesaed it wasn't a completely pointless post. Glad I used it well.
12-15-2014 , 07:05 AM
As much as the Nighttime needs something, it probably cannot support a sponsored tourney with the frequency that the daytime can.
12-15-2014 , 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DoGGz
As much as the Nighttime needs something, it probably cannot support a sponsored tourney with the frequency that the daytime can.
This is true, but if you look I made most of the off-peak stuff completely bowl. The Big $3.30 gets ~2500 runners daily, so I think it can sustain multiple bowlaments.
12-15-2014 , 08:28 AM
love the look of that schedule, but i would change the euro nightlies to $33 and $11, i think those are better price points.
12-15-2014 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jnfpoker
$215 6max PKO is a great tourney, you should make it a weekly major.
Agree with that although I would prefer it to be full ring. But definitely a Sunday major PSKO with the structure of the KO week ME would be great!
12-15-2014 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by jnfpoker
$215 6max PKO is a great tourney, you should make it a weekly major.
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Originally Posted by anuj22
+1 Too many of them are 6 max :/
+1
12-15-2014 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by rounder63
Pleaes please Please fixxxxxxxx the 500bb level for alllllllllll the other tournaments.... like its just so deadly not to have it
Hey Bryan, any comments on this please? It definitely seems like there are lots of people advocating for this to change.
12-15-2014 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by LittleGoliath
Hey Bryan, any comments on this please? It definitely seems like there are lots of people advocating for this to change.
add it to the 11+ aswell, maybee the sat super ko
12-15-2014 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by theMBK
I had a go at proposing a new NLH "red tournament" schedule. Obviously this is just an example but I think it offers lots of benefits.

- It doesn't change the schedule too much, almost all current tournaments are in either the same spots or virtually the same.
- It makes the red tournaments a bit less random/more organised. In the proposed schedule reg speeds are on the hour, turbos (& threw in some hypers) are on the half hour. And this is every hour throughout the day.
- It pads out the off-peak schedule a fair bit which has been suggested many times in the thread
- Potential room for a Big $215 in spot near to what has been suggested, and also a Hot $215 in a nice spot (I thought you could swap the 7.45pm $215 turbo for the $109 cubed turbo at 9.30pm).
- Euro and Pacific Nightlys added; Euro Nightlys suggested in thread recently, and helps Bigs keep unique buy-ins (Don't have to have the Big $18 or whatever).

I mostly like this! Especially the Pacific targeted stuff (1am - 10am)
12-15-2014 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by theMBK
This is true, but if you look I made most of the off-peak stuff completely bowl. The Big $3.30 gets ~2500 runners daily, so I think it can sustain multiple bowlaments.
Part of the reason that tournament gets so many runners is because there is limited selection. If you fire off a red tournament every 30 minutes at that time the field sizes for everything else would dwindle. Most of the players at those stakes are one tabling.
12-15-2014 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DoGGz
Part of the reason that tournament gets so many runners is because there is limited selection. If you fire off a red tournament every 30 minutes at that time the field sizes for everything else would dwindle. Most of the players at those stakes are one tabling.
+1
12-15-2014 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DoGGz
Part of the reason that tournament gets so many runners is because there is limited selection. If you fire off a red tournament every 30 minutes at that time the field sizes for everything else would dwindle. Most of the players at those stakes are one tabling.
In reality there is very little to steal traffic from. Is this guy say 1 or 2 tabling the big 3 now not going to flick in the $77 turbo or is it unrelated? Maybe now he 3 tables and flicks in an extra red tourney or two, who's to say?

I understand what you're saying, and maybe you're right, but I don't think you can predict the impact as though it is fact. Or even if it is fact, maybe it's better having a decent red bowlament than 2 or 3 non red bowlaments anyway. On the other hand maybe such changes tie people in to play for longer. Maybe more off peak reds encourages traffic and other field sizes increase. I realise you can over dilute things, but I can only imagine that any reasonable red tournament that Stars throws out there will just crush regardless.

Maybe the off peak sched goes a touch overboard just to keep the idea of every half an hour going, but whilst I'm not suggesting it's perfect I feel like the proposed sched/the ideas within it hit a lot of target areas.
12-15-2014 , 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by theMBK
In reality there is very little to steal traffic from. Is this guy say 1 or 2 tabling the big 3 now not going to flick in the $77 turbo or is it unrelated? Maybe now he 3 tables and flicks in an extra red tourney or two, who's to say?

I understand what you're saying, and maybe you're right, but I don't think you can predict the impact as though it is fact. Or even if it is fact, maybe it's better having a decent red bowlament than 2 or 3 non red bowlaments anyway. On the other hand maybe such changes tie people in to play for longer. Maybe more off peak reds encourages traffic and other field sizes increase. I realise you can over dilute things, but I can only imagine that any reasonable red tournament that Stars throws out there will just crush regardless.

Maybe the off peak sched goes a touch overboard just to keep the idea of every half an hour going, but whilst I'm not suggesting it's perfect I feel like the proposed sched/the ideas within it hit a lot of target areas.
If i remember correctly I don't think they are going to "red" any other tournament for now. But they would keep evaluating on 2015
12-16-2014 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by theMBK
I had a go at proposing a new NLH "red tournament" schedule. Obviously this is just an example but I think it offers lots of benefits.

- It doesn't change the schedule too much, almost all current tournaments are in either the same spots or virtually the same.
- It makes the red tournaments a bit less random/more organised. In the proposed schedule reg speeds are on the hour, turbos (& threw in some hypers) are on the half hour. And this is every hour throughout the day.
- It pads out the off-peak schedule a fair bit which has been suggested many times in the thread
- Potential room for a Big $215 in spot near to what has been suggested, and also a Hot $215 in a nice spot (I thought you could swap the 7.45pm $215 turbo for the $109 cubed turbo at 9.30pm).
- Euro and Pacific Nightlys added; Euro Nightlys suggested in thread recently, and helps Bigs keep unique buy-ins (Don't have to have the Big $18 or whatever).


I'd say that your a bit too optimistic here... Maybe remove a few of them... I agree that this time of the day is dead and definatly need some changes.
12-16-2014 , 04:16 AM
Is there any sense in deploying a multi-day mtt, where you can play the day 1 on stars and FTP aswell?
12-16-2014 , 05:11 AM
Bryan can you look @ putting a GTD on the $13.75 Turbo KO that runs @ the same time as Hot $2. Thanks.

Last edited by BEERM4N; 12-16-2014 at 05:17 AM.
12-16-2014 , 10:39 AM
I see a lot of people itt demanding even more red labeled tourneys; i don't think thats a good idea.

Why are you demanding this? Because the non-reds get less runners, a worse reg/rec ratio, and in effect lowered guarantees. I get that, but isn't it really short-sighted? Because every added red tourney cannibalises the regular mtts even more.

Just look at PS.fr, they had always more reds than .com, and now there isn't a single non-red tourney worth to play anymore on the whole site.

Isn't this a vicious circle?
12-16-2014 , 01:14 PM
Last 2 109 freezeouts I snap bust the 600bb level....... This has to changeeee its so devastating!
12-16-2014 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ataraktos
I see a lot of people itt demanding even more red labeled tourneys; i don't think thats a good idea.

Why are you demanding this? Because the non-reds get less runners, a worse reg/rec ratio, and in effect lowered guarantees. I get that, but isn't it really short-sighted? Because every added red tourney cannibalises the regular mtts even more.

Just look at PS.fr, they had always more reds than .com, and now there isn't a single non-red tourney worth to play anymore on the whole site.

Isn't this a vicious circle?
I dont agree with this, most of the non-red tourneys are already regfests and small already. So by making for example some rebuys or cubes red, it will certainly increase the prizepools and wont affect the non-reds so much/if at all .

      
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