***OFFICIAL Stars 2014 MTT Discussion Thread*** - Page 104 - MTT Poker Strategy

there are not daily/weekly progressive super knockouts with buyins higher than 27 Dollar. Any special reason for this?
They seem to be popular and always included in tcoop, scoop and wcoop.

11-26-2014 , 04:14 PM

#2578

Uhrenknecht

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Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,896

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1gambler

yea 400-500 max now they have put 2.5k gtd its hitting about 7k(1k+runner)already in 2days. but pay is still flat like 20% instead of usual around 12%

1. i like the payout being something else than the standard 12% or Satellite once in a while

2. GTD def bring players. If you can double the number of entrants by putting the words "GTD" on a game, all while keeping the GTD below the prizepool that was there w/o any GTD, this speaks a lot.

11-26-2014 , 06:35 PM

#2579

22riverrat22

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non re-entry 7.25 hyper turbo deeps to the billion porfa

not in any way asking for ultra deeps, those are total dog feces

11-26-2014 , 06:47 PM

#2580

LittleGoliath

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Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 3,921

Basically everything what rounder and asjbaaf are saying, listen to them pls

22c is a great example. Pre bf it used to be (close to) 5 fig 1st, now it doesn't even have 4k for 1st anymore. Same for the 3r. Seriously, people are not interested in playing it anymore when first has not even more than 3k 1st.

Just raise the****ing guarentees, it has been proved it worked with the 75, so at least when you are implementing those stupid changes (sportsbetting, table games and what else) keep your main customers happy as well

11-26-2014 , 07:04 PM

#2581

rounder63

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Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 2,392

Quote:

Originally Posted by LittleGoliath

50r a little bit post black friday on a sunday

Site Name Amount Won P5s Name Rank Posts Last Login
1. PokerToronto $36,023.81 PokerToronto PokerToronto
Join Date: Mar 29th, 2009
Canada 10,287th 2 Feb 23rd, 2012
2. santana31 $26,181.05

3. Rounder63 $19,685.00 rounder63 rounder63
Join Date: Sep 12th, 2007
Costa Rica 37th 24 Nov 26th, 2014

44k guar look Site/Network:
PokerStars
Date:
Dec 18th, 2011
Prize Pool:
$ 196,850.00
Total Players:
1151
Buy In:
$ 55.00

the 55r is just dead, you made the gtd soooooo smal no recs are playing it.

11-26-2014 , 07:23 PM

#2582

DoGGz

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No recs are playing anything that isn't big, red, and highlighted. Welcome to 2014.

Spoiler:

and not even those somedays

11-26-2014 , 07:33 PM

#2583

DoGGz

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And that isn't a dig at rounder or anything. Stars has killed some of its tournaments on purpose. Fish have responded by just playing the biggest red tournament nearby, only wandering into other events if they get lost.

11-26-2014 , 07:41 PM

#2584

rounder63

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Np man, I understand hat your saying....

11-26-2014 , 08:29 PM

#2585

burnJa

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,630

wow those are pretty big overlays for pokerstars. looks like that clickable **** they put on our tables yesterday didnt work so well

anyone know how to get rid of that, btw? Im using hyper simple theme and I can see it through seat 9's name and stack. mildly annoying

11-26-2014 , 09:46 PM

#2586

pokerproplaya08

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Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,724

Big 215, Big 82, a Red 109 PSKO, a red $55 6max, change the 11r to some sort of red labeled rebuy (think others have stated .fr has something like this)

a few more mid or mid-HS type mtts during the day wouldn't hurt either.

11-26-2014 , 10:01 PM

#2587

22riverrat22

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no people in mtts, everyones spinnin and goin

(honestly, why chunk $180 into the big 55 and 109 when in minutes sic you can win 90k in a spin and go)

11-26-2014 , 10:17 PM

#2588

burnJa

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,630

If stars had it their way they would only spread CAP cash tables and spin n goes.

11-27-2014 , 12:00 PM

#2589

Thibavol

adept

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 927

Regarding the new Big 109 deadline sat :

Good : It's a really good idea to have a major deadline sat for those bigs. 16.5$ for 109 is a good ratio.

Bad : Structure choosen is probably the worst possible one for sats, 1500chips, levels missing. and duration of levels actually gets down to 4min then 3min. More like an hyper than a turbo !
Clearly a fast structure is needed, but this one is not a fun structure for reCs. Deep turbo or deep hyper or 3k chips turbo would have been a better choice !

Variance : 18h15- 18h20 would work as good as the current 18h30, and only 10min latereg ? why not more ?

11-27-2014 , 01:56 PM

#2590

Thibavol

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Oh and also : No breaks ?

11-27-2014 , 07:53 PM

#2591

OurSurveySays

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the problem isn't necessarily the guarantees, its the lack of advertisement for current prizepool.

if theres 25k worth of people in a 7k prizepool and the lobby shows that (like on full tilt) it will naturally get a lot more people)

11-27-2014 , 08:18 PM

#2592

gollyheck

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OurSurveySays

Guess you aren't using the new version of the Stars software. Or you have the Prizepool column disabled.

11-27-2014 , 08:33 PM

#2593

FreeThinkMX420

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Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 384

Quote:

Originally Posted by LittleGoliath

THIS.

stars have lost tonnes of rake from me last few months cause of these weak gtds.

11-27-2014 , 08:43 PM

#2594

FreeThinkMX420

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Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 384

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerproplaya08

think thyre only red on stars.fr cuz rebuys get raked =/.

use to love stars rebuys. 3r after big 11 would have 5-7k and even 9k uptop on sundays sometimes. always beat its guarantee and they keep lowering it.
the 2 5 Quads next to each other were always played if i was playing. rarely do now. the only good lowstakes tourneys are now monster fields of 3k+. Rebuys built pig prizpools at manageable field sizes.

last year all i see is MORE RAKE , less guarantees - wheres the logic.

AMAYAstars = lets turn poker into bingo

11-27-2014 , 08:49 PM

#2595

gollyheck

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeThinkMX420

That 3r got to over 15k to first on Sundays and had field size over 10k so what you are saying about manageable field sizes is a bit of a contradiction.

11-27-2014 , 10:48 PM

#2596

Sect7G

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DoGGz

And that isn't a dig at rounder or anything. Stars has killed some of its tournaments on purpose. Fish have responded by just playing the biggest red tournament nearby, only wandering into other events if they get lost.

I agree. This makes only the red tourneys have any real value to winning players. All non reds are just regfests. I believe BryanPS said in the future there will only be sats to the red tourneys which will make all other tourneys even more regfested.

The one thing that these red tourneys have in common is they are either PSKO's and aren't rebuys giving Stars maximum rake.

11-27-2014 , 11:02 PM

#2597

OurSurveySays

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What about raising the guarantees of every $22 tournament every single day individually until it gets an overlay? If it does then it goes down 1k etc

You never know some tournies may end up he eventually and it would only take a couple do weeks for the really weak guarantee tournaments to get up to the pace they should be at.

11-27-2014 , 11:03 PM

#2598

OurSurveySays

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It sounds like a lot of work by just hire one guy to do this as his full time job, surely, surely it would make you more than $1k /day and obviously you'd pay him way less. Can even do it every 2 days, etc

11-27-2014 , 11:15 PM

#2599

FreeThinkMX420

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Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 384

Quote:

Originally Posted by gollyheck

That 3r got to over 15k to first on Sundays and had field size over 10k so what you are saying about manageable field sizes is a bit of a contradiction.

it's not a contradiction at all. my point being that rebuy's build prizepools with a comparatively smaller field size. it would probably take a 35k field on a $3freezout to generate 15k up top.