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04-23-2012 , 02:47 PM
Be interesting to see if these are actually implemented by FTP2 when they launch:

http://www.pokerq4.com/ftp2-sit-go-p...-million-added

Like the idea that "1 out of every x" SNGs randomly has added $$ during happy hour. That's definitely something Stars could copy, and instead of just $$ you could throw in prizes as well. Whether that's adding a place, or in addition to 1st and/or 2nd place, etc.
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04-23-2012 , 03:28 PM
Thatd be a really good idea. Would bring more rec players, and theyd probably tighten up around the bubble since the cash would be for more
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04-23-2012 , 03:47 PM
It's a really good idea, and Stars could implement it easily fleshed out a little better, random example:

Every 1 million SNGs, random numbers are generated that are assigned to TourneyIDs, if the tourneyID is an MTT, the next SNG in line is selected, etc, once a million SNGs have run, new numbers are generated. Following bonuses are assigned:

1000 SNGs have 5 buyins added up to a max of $100
100 SNGs have 20 buyins added up to a max of $500
10 SNGs have 100 buyins added up to a max of $3000
1 SNG has 500 buyins added up to a max of $20000

Depending on the number of buyins added more places are added, like for +5 buyins 1 extra paying spot is added, for the +500 one everyone gets paid.
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05-12-2012 , 03:50 PM
Maybe this goes in the software improvement thread, but the last update undid the nice feature where if you click on/highlight a registering tourney, even if it goes off before you register, you don't get pulled down to the bottom of the stack until you click off the lobby. It stays at the top indefinitely (or at least for a few minutes+) if it remains highlighted.

I.e., there's 30+ of a certain buyin of hypers running, I single click on a lobby of a registering tourney, but for whatever reason I don't register before it goes off (got distracted by actions in other games, all regs and I pass, etc.). Now I look back and it's pulled me to the bottom of the stack, and I have to scroll all the way back up to check the new registering games again, all while trying to play a bunch of tables.

Please (re)-fix!
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05-13-2012 , 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Alex Wice
Like I said before and also Gramps has been asking around, what do people think of changing turbos from

20 30 50 100 150 200 200a

to

30 40 60 80 120a 160 200
please leave 10/20 alone, it's the only chance to gain an edge through pre flop maneuvering and post flop play.
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05-13-2012 , 08:32 AM
yeah, setminers need their setmine!

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$15/9 hyp plz ;d
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05-13-2012 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dybboss
$15/9 hyp plz ;d
Im moving back to the states tmrw so theyre most likely gonna add 15/9s right after i do. Just like they added hyper turbos right after BF.
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05-13-2012 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Wice
Like I said before and also Gramps has been asking around, what do people think of changing turbos from

20 30 50 100 150 200 200a

to

30 40 60 80 120a 160 200
Why not just include antes in every level and keep it as it currently is?
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05-13-2012 , 07:13 PM
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old: 20 30 50 100 150 200 200a
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new: 30 40 60 80 120a 160 200
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Originally Posted by yAAwn
Why not just include antes in every level and keep it as it currently is?
This change is directly aimed at promoting more action. In general, your edge is often directly related to the number of flops you see. bb100 with no ante, when there is a 1500 starting stack, is basically a really awkward level that doesn't encourage any action. Trying to avoid this level is one of the key facets of the structure I suggested.
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05-13-2012 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Wice
This change is directly aimed at promoting more action. In general, your edge is often directly related to the number of flops you see. bb100 with no ante, when there is a 1500 starting stack, is basically a really awkward level that doesn't encourage any action. Trying to avoid this level is one of the key facets of the structure I suggested.
Ah okay, makes perfect sense.
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05-13-2012 , 08:24 PM
nah it doesnt
there is nothing awkward about t100, perfect level for minraising and restealing

AW you suggested ftp-like structure, i think there are reasons why stars sng were so much more popular over the years comparing to ftp. Mainly:
-structure
-worse software (for sng grinding, and lol 16 tables cap) and very poor 'helping tools' (ftp TN was a joke)
-smaller rakeback vs SN+

those 3 things kept maaaany good regs away, THATs why ftp was so much softer, not because of structure. So if you did good on ftp and struggle on stars (just a guess), thats for different reasons.
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05-13-2012 , 08:36 PM
I preferred the FT software (aside from 16 cap) and TNFT wasnt really that bad. I honestly think the structure is one of the last things that factor into what site rec players choose.

The reason FTP games were softer is because they had better effective RB% for most players and tons of sponsored "pros" who couldnt beat the games, which injected more money into the ecosystem.
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05-13-2012 , 09:40 PM
Another point to consider is that if Stars does introduce a Turbo structure starting at 20/40 or 25/50 they *should* reasonably charge less rake, since the run times will be shorter (even if they add more mid-game blind levels). That possibility alone makes the idea very intriguing from a reg-perspective.

Even a ~15-20% rake cut based on expected run-time would be very significant. Could help re-vitalize some dead-ish SNG ecosystems in the process and possibly be a win for rec. players, Stars, and grinders.

And I'm pretty meh either way, I'm just surprised more people aren't jumping on that bandwagon. At least at the mid/higher stakes where people aren't making massive mistakes early very often.
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05-14-2012 , 01:21 AM
$15 9man hypers please! Yeeeee snuck that one in there
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05-14-2012 , 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SandmanNess
please leave 10/20 alone, it's the only chance to gain an edge through pre flop maneuvering and post flop play.
+1
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05-16-2012 , 11:59 AM
Actually if Stars does go ahead and buy Full Tilt, that'd be a great place to experiment with their new Turbo structure that starts a few/several blind levels later (and that pleeeaaassseee!!!! charges a bit less rake as well ).

FT Turbo blind structure is probably much better for that format than Stars Turbo blind structure (obviously).
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05-16-2012 , 10:10 PM
$3.50 9man hypers please.

As someone who probably sucks at the poker, but is also someone who does not like to just give my money away, going from $1.50 to $7, is too big of a jump.

Although I could just deposit $700 - $1400 to roll myself for the $7's, I am not going to unless I know I can at least break even at the lower stakes.

If you bring in $3.50's I will probably deposit the extra I need to roll myself for these. So that’s more money for PS

Thanks
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05-22-2012 , 08:07 PM
Its not as bad as you describe it, games are a little looser because of bounty but still for many regulars its pretty profitable. In longer run (say tens thousends tourneys).
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05-22-2012 , 08:21 PM
Knocking someone out is about luck? Could you explain that?
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05-22-2012 , 08:59 PM
Why do the hyper's jump from 30$ - 100$? I don't understand the logic for this. Add 60's imo.
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05-22-2012 , 09:33 PM
and 200s and 500s
and 15$ 9mans ;d

gogo Stars balls deep into hypers!
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05-24-2012 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by yAAwn
Why do the hyper's jump from 30$ - 100$? I don't understand the logic for this. Add 60's imo.
I see posts like this every day and I think basically there is a misunderstanding. Here, regs and stars interests align basically -- [and this is an oversimplification but still relevant] -- that more or less that regs want more volume (expressed in terms of total buyins), and stars want more rake (which is basically a fixed percentage of total buyins.)

Obviously with that big of a jump between 30 and 100 which is nontraditional, they have thought about it deeply. Like there are people that have it as their job to decide what the buyins are, so because they have all day and are paid for this, they don't just throw out any number -- they have analysis/data to back it up. If they decide no 60s is good for them, because of the above paragraph it is likely good for you too. (I'm using "you" in a general sense -- obviously for any policy there will be people negatively and positively affected)
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05-26-2012 , 08:20 AM
I've just deployed $60 and $200 6-max NL Holdem hypers. There are four simultaneous registrations for each one.
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05-26-2012 , 08:43 AM
Matter of time before $15 9-man NL Holdem hypers or?
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05-26-2012 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by PS Walmsley
I've just deployed $60 and $200 6-max NL Holdem hypers. There are four simultaneous registrations for each one.
Lol thats the sound of so many SNE dreams being born
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