*** OFFICIAL PokerStars STT Suggestion Thread ***
07-13-2015
, 02:36 PM
Quote:
Hello all,
Just came back from vacation, so I have not had time to read everything in the thread yet. However, I did check what has happened with the average run-times for the $60 Hypers since going to hands / blind level.
There has been quite a significant increase (85 seconds or about 11% ) in how long it takes to finish these tournaments. Therefore, effective immediately, I have cut the first two levels from five to four hands. If you look at my previous Q&A post, you will see that this is closer to the average hands for these two levels from before the trial.
I will let the tournaments run with this structure for a week or two, and then evaluate again.
Thanks,
Baard
Just came back from vacation, so I have not had time to read everything in the thread yet. However, I did check what has happened with the average run-times for the $60 Hypers since going to hands / blind level.
There has been quite a significant increase (85 seconds or about 11% ) in how long it takes to finish these tournaments. Therefore, effective immediately, I have cut the first two levels from five to four hands. If you look at my previous Q&A post, you will see that this is closer to the average hands for these two levels from before the trial.
I will let the tournaments run with this structure for a week or two, and then evaluate again.
Thanks,
Baard
Try playing several tables (or 1) vs. this. It just gets painfully S-L-O-W.
08-03-2015
, 10:46 AM
Hello all,
After the previous adjustment of the hands / blind-level structure, the average runtime of the $60 hypers was reduced by about 30 seconds. This is still almost a minute longer than what we saw when the blind levels were two minutes long, so today, we have made a further adjustment:
In addition, the $30s and $100s are now using this blind structure.
I will continue to monitor the situation, but hopefully this adjustment will get us very close to 'normal'.
Thanks,
Baard
After the previous adjustment of the hands / blind-level structure, the average runtime of the $60 hypers was reduced by about 30 seconds. This is still almost a minute longer than what we saw when the blind levels were two minutes long, so today, we have made a further adjustment:
In addition, the $30s and $100s are now using this blind structure.
I will continue to monitor the situation, but hopefully this adjustment will get us very close to 'normal'.
Thanks,
Baard
08-06-2015
, 04:34 AM
08-11-2015
, 12:49 PM
Another solution to the low traffic at Higher steps would be to turn these into 6max.
I have suggested this before and think it works really well. Baard hasn't answered yet though!
08-12-2015
, 02:12 AM
08-26-2015
, 09:02 AM
Hello all,
We were still experiencing somewhat increased runtimes in the 6 Max Hypers, so I have made a new adjustment, which I hope and believe will be the final one:
In addition, I have deployed this blind structure to all stakes of the 6 Max Hypers.
Thanks,
Baard
We were still experiencing somewhat increased runtimes in the 6 Max Hypers, so I have made a new adjustment, which I hope and believe will be the final one:
In addition, I have deployed this blind structure to all stakes of the 6 Max Hypers.
Thanks,
Baard
08-27-2015
, 04:33 AM
08-27-2015
, 12:44 PM
08-28-2015
, 09:53 AM
08-31-2015
, 03:22 PM
Quote:
Hello!
I would like to discuss with you the changes that have been made in the structure of 6max hyperturbo tournaments.
It was announced some time ago that you are going to replace blind levels based on time to blind levels based on number of hands. I was waiting for it because it would make the structure of tournaments better. You tried this new structure based on this information
.
But for some reason you decided to substantially cut the number of
hands per level. You haven't announced this and haven't discussed this with regular players by posts on poker forums. I don't know which buy-in limit of tournaments did you use for your calculation in the table above, probably you used average numbers in all limits. I've made own calculation based on my database (I have one of the biggest sample on my limits). I counted just tournaments where blind level was completely passed.
Here is the result:
blind level - hands
20 - 3.68
30 - 3.42
40 - 4.17
60 - 5
80 - 5.85
100 - 6.81
120 - 8.18
150 - 10.69
180 - 15.08
I would like to repeat: I counted just tournaments where I played whole blind level, excluding tournaments which ended on that blind level. I guess that in your calculation you counted all tournaments. And such situation when the tournament was finished at the middle of the blind level greatly reduced average number of hands per level. To my mind this is wrong way to count as you need to find duration of blind level. For example, based on your calculation 180 blind level will never be longer than 7 hands. Adjusted for cases when the tournaments will end on the middle of the level it will be greatly less. I hope you understand what I mean.
I'm not a great expert in matters of business and don't know your future plans but I can understand why such changes are profitable for you on the short distance. But on the long distance I can see that prospect for the hyper-turbo 6 max is not that great. Such structure changes are slightly good just for players who loses their money. For regular players (even for weak regular players) it will bring less expectation and bigger variance. I know what I am talking about. The variance is very big because of big rake in SNG tournaments comparing with cash games. As I see what's going to happen: regular players won't be able to play the same volume of their "work" tournaments as before. It will reduce the volume of tournaments - and the volume of your profit. I think that 6max hyperturbo is one of the top games with big rake, one of the profitable games for you. At the last time the volume of tournaments greatly reduced. I understand that right now it is summer and it is like "not a season" for big volume of tournaments but even last year when it was FIFA World Cup there was bigger number of tournaments. And I understand that this is natural process of reducing the game. But your changes artificially make the speed of reducing higher. I'm worried about my expectation now and for the future of 6max hyper tournaments. I like your idea to change the structure from time to number of hands per level but I would like you make this changes more responsible and don't make the structure worse then it was. You should add hands to early and middle blind levels and change the calculation method for high blind levels. There is another way - reduce the rake. In this case player's expectation will be the same with new structure but they will be able to play more tournaments at once. Probably you won't lose money in this case. But it seems that such way will work just for low limits, the volume of tournaments will not increase because of lack of recreation players.
It is just my opinion and probably it isn't fully correct but I ask you to start a dialogue to solve the problem.
Sincerely, UkupniKK!
I would like to discuss with you the changes that have been made in the structure of 6max hyperturbo tournaments.
It was announced some time ago that you are going to replace blind levels based on time to blind levels based on number of hands. I was waiting for it because it would make the structure of tournaments better. You tried this new structure based on this information
. But for some reason you decided to substantially cut the number of
hands per level. You haven't announced this and haven't discussed this with regular players by posts on poker forums. I don't know which buy-in limit of tournaments did you use for your calculation in the table above, probably you used average numbers in all limits. I've made own calculation based on my database (I have one of the biggest sample on my limits). I counted just tournaments where blind level was completely passed.
Here is the result:
blind level - hands
20 - 3.68
30 - 3.42
40 - 4.17
60 - 5
80 - 5.85
100 - 6.81
120 - 8.18
150 - 10.69
180 - 15.08
I would like to repeat: I counted just tournaments where I played whole blind level, excluding tournaments which ended on that blind level. I guess that in your calculation you counted all tournaments. And such situation when the tournament was finished at the middle of the blind level greatly reduced average number of hands per level. To my mind this is wrong way to count as you need to find duration of blind level. For example, based on your calculation 180 blind level will never be longer than 7 hands. Adjusted for cases when the tournaments will end on the middle of the level it will be greatly less. I hope you understand what I mean.
I'm not a great expert in matters of business and don't know your future plans but I can understand why such changes are profitable for you on the short distance. But on the long distance I can see that prospect for the hyper-turbo 6 max is not that great. Such structure changes are slightly good just for players who loses their money. For regular players (even for weak regular players) it will bring less expectation and bigger variance. I know what I am talking about. The variance is very big because of big rake in SNG tournaments comparing with cash games. As I see what's going to happen: regular players won't be able to play the same volume of their "work" tournaments as before. It will reduce the volume of tournaments - and the volume of your profit. I think that 6max hyperturbo is one of the top games with big rake, one of the profitable games for you. At the last time the volume of tournaments greatly reduced. I understand that right now it is summer and it is like "not a season" for big volume of tournaments but even last year when it was FIFA World Cup there was bigger number of tournaments. And I understand that this is natural process of reducing the game. But your changes artificially make the speed of reducing higher. I'm worried about my expectation now and for the future of 6max hyper tournaments. I like your idea to change the structure from time to number of hands per level but I would like you make this changes more responsible and don't make the structure worse then it was. You should add hands to early and middle blind levels and change the calculation method for high blind levels. There is another way - reduce the rake. In this case player's expectation will be the same with new structure but they will be able to play more tournaments at once. Probably you won't lose money in this case. But it seems that such way will work just for low limits, the volume of tournaments will not increase because of lack of recreation players.
It is just my opinion and probably it isn't fully correct but I ask you to start a dialogue to solve the problem.
Sincerely, UkupniKK!
