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09-24-2012 , 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by AGGROFORST
Hey im a noob with AHK kann you explain how this works or post a link?

THX
Spoiler:

1. install autohotkey basic
2. rightclick anywhere and create a new ahk script
3. edit the script and overwrite the content with above code
4. run the script
5. enter the avg rebuy amount* into the input box and press ok


-> When you now doubleclick a tourney listed in the HEM1 Data View tab to bring up the "Edit Tourney Number: xxxx" window, the script will automatically edit the rebuy amount and save the changes. Once you're done with all editing just press ESC to close the script.

* Note that this does not account for actual unique r/a amounts, just the average. Say the difference between tracked profit and actual profit is $31.90 (10 r/a) after 6 games, the avg r/a amt for every game will be $5.32 (5.31666 rounded up). It's not perfect but good enough for correct overall tracking (profit, ABI, ROI).
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09-24-2012 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
Like he said, they trialled rebuy 90-mans and no ****er played them. They're a stupid idea.

The traffic in 180s slows dramatically in the early hours GMT, but adding 90s that nobody will play is not the answer. Perhaps there isn't an answer! Perhaps the majority of the player pool is asleep!

Happy hour promotions for off peak times are the best solution. Incentivize regs to continue loading games for a few more hours once the traffic drops, and reward the recreationals who help to get the games going at those times. I see from the latest PS rep post that the software doesn't allow for this right now, well fix it. You're a multi billion company with an effective monopoly, you shouldn't be passing up opportunities to milk the market for even more money.
+1
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09-24-2012 , 10:39 PM
Would really like to see a 180 Turbo between the $2.50 and $8. Maybe a $5 or $5.50. This is low hanging fruit (easy to implement) and would be huge demand.
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09-28-2012 , 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SeriousGrindaments
Do NOT add Zoom MTTsngs - less rake incoming because players play less tables (it's impossible to play tourneys & Zoom MTTs)

You can have this format @fulltilt.
+1

also dont ever bring multi entry tournaments to pokerstars


conversely, there were no rebuy cash prize sit and goes at full tilt


leave both sites as they were on these fronts

a little artificial diferentiation between what will be the 2 faces of pokerstars

(instead of poisioning stars with one or both of the diseases which would have crippled fulltilts sng and mtt economy (i had personally quit fulltilt and moved all but 3 figures of my five figure bankroll onto stars as a reaction to METs being the worst thing anyone ever did to a poker ecosystem [and i wont one during double gtd week for near 20k and still think they are the worst invention since subprime mortgages] given a long enough timeline rush sngs and multi entry tourneys which will dry up games at such an accelerated rate compared to the natural decay over time of gameplay and popularity as more players develop competence and more lose hope they will ever stop losing)
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09-28-2012 , 12:23 PM
Wow. Is pokerstars really considering killing the Battle of the Planet? That is probably the best and most loved promotion on the site not to mention one of the fairest as it's reward all year round "hot streaks". Basically implementing "streak based" promotions is like saying " hey, if you run hot this random week we chose we'll give you money, neah we don't care how bad you are". Another thing to consider is that a recreational good player that maybe logs in 200 sngs per week can still make money and scores in the battle but if you just randomly have promotion that guy will probably never get any money out of this.

I hope I'll get an answer from this and I do hope that more sng players will back me up on this and hopefully it won't happen.

Thank you for reading.
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09-29-2012 , 08:10 PM
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...posed-1251158/

for those who didnt saw it, meeting with stars again, maybe some good spokesman can represent our ideas from here that you whine everyday and nothing gets changed
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09-29-2012 , 10:09 PM
breaks to 18 mans and everything else
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09-29-2012 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by sick
Wow. Is pokerstars really considering killing the Battle of the Planet? That is probably the best and most loved promotion on the site not to mention one of the fairest as it's reward all year round "hot streaks". Basically implementing "streak based" promotions is like saying " hey, if you run hot this random week we chose we'll give you money, neah we don't care how bad you are". Another thing to consider is that a recreational good player that maybe logs in 200 sngs per week can still make money and scores in the battle but if you just randomly have promotion that guy will probably never get any money out of this.

I hope I'll get an answer from this and I do hope that more sng players will back me up on this and hopefully it won't happen.

Thank you for reading.
Yes, 100% absolutely. I attended the player meetings and I had exactly this concern. Also, I was the only person ready with a replacement promo, in fact an even better one that will drive more recreational players to play. As ridiculous as this sounds, they were actually going to replace BOP with straight up nothing. Zero.

When the "CV" thread opens, I will post an application and you can read more about it there.

Another thing to be cognizant of is that I know for a fact that PS is always listening even if they don't have an official host presence in these threads. If you have good ideas and repeat them loudly enough, those ideas will work their way within the company.
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09-29-2012 , 10:34 PM
On the MTTsng front, its clear that many people are divided on zoom mttsngs, and so we can let FTP offer that basically.

However I'm fairly certain on demand is something everyone can get behind. This basically just starts a 180 [still 180 player cap] when 45 players register, and holds open late-reg for 15 mins. This makes it so that recreational players join more games, since they only like to register if they are reasonably confident they can play right away or fairly soon. This helps remove stagnation from the games with [in my opinion] virtually no downside. What do people think of this?
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09-29-2012 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SeriousGrindaments
Do NOT add Zoom MTTsngs - less rake incoming because players play less tables (it's impossible to play tourneys & Zoom MTTs)

You can have this format @fulltilt.
Now that Full Tilt is coming back I can support this statement. I enjoy them, cash grab or not, and I can understand how this upsets a lot of players.
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09-29-2012 , 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Wice
On the MTTsng front, its clear that many people are divided on zoom mttsngs, and so we can let FTP offer that basically
+1

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Originally Posted by Alex Wice
However I'm fairly certain on demand is something everyone can get behind. This basically just starts a 180 [still 180 player cap] when 45 players register, and holds open late-reg for 15 mins. This makes it so that recreational players join more games, since they only like to register if they are reasonably confident they can play right away or fairly soon. This helps remove stagnation from the games with [in my opinion] virtually no downside. What do people think of this?
Like this idea. Would it be changed so all 180s are on demand or there would be separate normal 180s and same levels on demand 180s, second one seems unlikely to me when i read what i wrote but just to make sure cuz that would be prolly bad idea
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09-30-2012 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Alex Wice
On the MTTsng front, its clear that many people are divided on zoom mttsngs, and so we can let FTP offer that basically.

However I'm fairly certain on demand is something everyone can get behind. This basically just starts a 180 [still 180 player cap] when 45 players register, and holds open late-reg for 15 mins. This makes it so that recreational players join more games, since they only like to register if they are reasonably confident they can play right away or fairly soon. This helps remove stagnation from the games with [in my opinion] virtually no downside. What do people think of this?
agreed! I still hate the idea of zoom MTSNGs, but on demand would be awesome.
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09-30-2012 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Wice
On the MTTsng front, its clear that many people are divided on zoom mttsngs, and so we can let FTP offer that basically.

However I'm fairly certain on demand is something everyone can get behind. This basically just starts a 180 [still 180 player cap] when 45 players register, and holds open late-reg for 15 mins. This makes it so that recreational players join more games, since they only like to register if they are reasonably confident they can play right away or fairly soon. This helps remove stagnation from the games with [in my opinion] virtually no downside. What do people think of this?
On demand would be the nuts.
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10-01-2012 , 08:53 AM
Hello again,

It was great to see the feedback from all of you, and I hope and believe that we can have a productive dialogue going in the time to come. Of course, it will never be possible to satisfy everyone, but the input we are getting here is always taken into consideration when making decisions about the games.

I will look through the thread in the upcoming week, and aim to make a similar post next Friday.

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Originally Posted by ontemu
Also, most of the regs in my timezone play every MTTSNG (not counting 18's) possible starting from 3,5$ 45-mans just to get enough games running. Some even add in 18-mans. Im sure 99% would be more than happy to play 90's.
At the moment, I don't think we will be convinced to add more 90 man rebuy tournaments. The fact remains that when we tried running the tournaments, very few of them got started.

Also, it seems that there are more posts against this suggestion than are in favour, so at this time we will not be adding any 90 man re-buy tournaments.

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Originally Posted by retr0byte
11$/180mans max 2-3 a day get started , are you gonna kill'em?
We are going to give these tournaments some more time to build a following, so no decision will be made on this quite yet.

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Originally Posted by Baobhan-Sith
On a side note, please add Hero's # of R/A's and KO bounties to the tourney summary files.
This is something that is currently being considered for development.

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Originally Posted by Thalo
Also, as someone trying to build a SNG roll, as I'm sure many others are, $1.50 180 man Turbos would be awesome.
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Originally Posted by aiminglow
Would really like to see a 180 Turbo between the $2.50 and $8. Maybe a $5 or $5.50. This is low hanging fruit (easy to implement) and would be huge demand.
We don't have the liquidity to support additional stake levels right now, but we'll keep an eye on it going forward.

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Originally Posted by Eldorian
Could you comment why PS cannot discuss this in THIS (or the mttsng) thread where people ask questions about it? it is NOT addressed in the MTT thread (maybe because there are few questions on it there) it is clearly close to the heart of players here and mttsng... can we open an official steps&sattelites thread if you do not want to discuss it in the threads where there are acctuall comments on them?
Let me present to you the brand new satelites thread: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...steps-1251675/

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Originally Posted by broken_jia
Stars probably won't openly admit this, but rebuys tourneys in general generate less rake for them. Also, they eat into the traffic in the other games (i.e. a $7 rebuy would negatively affect the $15s).
We are very aware of the relatively low rake in rebuy tournaments. If we were deadset opposed to rebuy tournaments due to this characteristic, we would simply not offer rebuy tournaments or would charge rake on rebuys. We do have the technical capability; rake is charged on rebuys on some of our other licenses such as Pokerstars.es and PokerStars.fr. I cannot say that this will never happen in the future, but we have no immediate plans to do so.

We are willing to deploy additional rebuy tournaments for variety, and in fact did deploy a 90-player rebuy for a trial at one point but it was quite unpopular. However, we are not willing to deploy additional rebuy tournaments simply because players want to pay substantially less rake. We currently offer the single 180-player rebuy that is a nice rake break for players inclined to take advantage of it, and offers a rebuy option for players who want to play that format. Adding another 180 rebuy as requested would not be increasing variety as much as it would be providing a big rake break for regulars, so it is not likely to happen.

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Originally Posted by Baobhan-Sith
I had to mix in 90s for 2 months or so (rebuild, BRM etc) but dropped them as soon as I could, mainly because of their payout structure. 12/90 places paid is just too much, leaving too little for 1st-3rd. They could be more popular if you changed them to a more top heavy structure with 9 or max 10 ppl paid
We feel that most players prefer the current prize structure in these tournaments, and we have certainly not had a lot of feedback asking us to change it. If that changed, we may look at this issue again, but for the time being the prize structure will remain as it is.

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Originally Posted by Baobhan-Sith
huge +1 to (permanent>recurring) MTSNG promos/TLB/BoP (I loved BoP back when I played eliglible games fwiw)

Btw, how about MTSNG tickets for FPP?
Regarding VIP Store tickets for MTTSNGs: the tournament ticket offering in the VIP Store focuses on special or signature tournaments in order to contribute to their success. We have no plans of offering generic tickets at this time.

VIP Reward Bonuses are available. The cash credited to your account after purchasing these can of course be used to buy-in to the MTTSNG of your choice.

As for promotions and leader boards, I have mentioned earlier that we will be re-evaluating BoP and also consider adding other promotions. However, we do not announce promotions far ahead of time, so I will not go into specifics at this time.
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10-01-2012 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Alex Wice
On the MTTsng front, its clear that many people are divided on zoom mttsngs, and so we can let FTP offer that basically.

However I'm fairly certain on demand is something everyone can get behind. This basically just starts a 180 [still 180 player cap] when 45 players register, and holds open late-reg for 15 mins. This makes it so that recreational players join more games, since they only like to register if they are reasonably confident they can play right away or fairly soon. This helps remove stagnation from the games with [in my opinion] virtually no downside. What do people think of this?
im indifferent at best to capped on demands

im heavily in favor of uncapped on demands especially cubed turbos but i wouldnt be thinking of them as a new breed of sngs, but rather a way for the customer to determine the volume of mtt offerings that run throughout the day and for sng regs to branch out into slightly larger but not absurdly large fields easier

180 or 240 player start, 30 or 60 minutes of late reg, some sort of trivial guarantee attatched so players who havent tried them yet can see what type of prizepools they build and the all imporant green font is all i ask
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10-01-2012 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 22riverrat22
im indifferent at best to capped on demands

im heavily in favor of uncapped on demands especially cubed turbos but i wouldnt be thinking of them as a new breed of sngs, but rather a way for the customer to determine the volume of mtt offerings that run throughout the day and for sng regs to branch out into slightly larger but not absurdly large fields easier

180 or 240 player start, 30 or 60 minutes of late reg, some sort of trivial guarantee attatched so players who havent tried them yet can see what type of prizepools they build and the all imporant green font is all i ask
Yes this is now MTT domain instead of MTTSNGs, but I basically agree with every point you mentioned. The MTT schedule has a lot of clutter where basically for example every hour they have a $11 turbo, and $2 turbo ko, and whatnot. What can be done is just to move this into a "Quick MTT" or "MTT Now!" menu along with turbo 180s so that they are easier to find. So every hour [or whenever, but at predictable times] you can go join a $11 mtt with a decent guarantee and with late reg open for an hour. Note this doesn't even mean changing the schedule significantly, PS already offers these tourneys, its just the lobby and jenga-esque schedule is confusing.

The current tournament schedule has good "red name" big boned tourneys with predictable times, but all the meat in between is only known to grinders. When a rec (that plays >= $10 buyins) logs on, they want to play say, 1-6 tables of low buyin NLH MTTs. Thats most people, or at least a heck of a lot of people. So there needs to be a "quick MTT" menu with all the OD 180s, plus those MTTs [with no cap] starting at predictable times. This guarantees that a rec will want to login since they know they can always get the game that they want to play (by and large low buyin NLH mtts.) And yes they could be on demand, or not.

Like I said before, the most important thing for PS is to always have the seat open. When the seat isn't open [and the game ready to go], recs by and large won't jump in.
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10-02-2012 , 03:59 PM
i agree with you entirely on the "open seat" value

and not only for rec players, i myself would be thrilled if i could snapload a bunch of late reg games in peak and save myself the wasted space waiting at the start of sessions

being able to snap late reg 15 on demands across various buy ins and structures along with sch mtts that were started before i logged on would make me a happy guy
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10-02-2012 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 22riverrat22
i agree with you entirely on the "open seat" value

and not only for rec players, i myself would be thrilled if i could snapload a bunch of late reg games in peak and save myself the wasted space waiting at the start of sessions

being able to snap late reg 15 on demands across various buy ins and structures along with sch mtts that were started before i logged on would make me a happy guy
+++++ 1000000
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10-03-2012 , 04:25 PM
Hi Baard, ty for responding to the thread.

Couple of points for me.

500/1000 level for 45mans? (big discussion point previously)

36 man 6max hypers $1.5 -> $100 buyins..? thoughts?
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10-03-2012 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by JayPez
Hi Baard, ty for responding to the thread.

Couple of points for me.

500/1000 level for 45mans? (big discussion point previously)

36 man 6max hypers $1.5 -> $100 buyins..? thoughts?

27 man 9max hypers?? this will be great
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10-04-2012 , 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JayPez
36 man 6max hypers $1.5 -> $100 buyins..? thoughts?
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Originally Posted by thepilator
27 man 9max hypers?? this will be great
Really can't see these working.

180s are more way more popular than 27mans, yet the 180man hyper currently offered at $1 is not even half as popular as the $2.50 turbo, so why would a 27man/36man hyper be a success, when they offer the worst of both worlds (small size and high speed)?

Can't imagine there would be anywhere near enough recreational players that would want to play these to make them worth implementing, or offer an expected hourly worth bothering with, and that's not to mention the extra variance that would come with it.
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10-04-2012 , 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamTrousers
Really can't see these working.

180s are more way more popular than 27mans, yet the 180man hyper currently offered at $1 is not even half as popular as the $2.50 turbo, so why would a 27man/36man hyper be a success, when they offer the worst of both worlds (small size and high speed)?

Can't imagine there would be anywhere near enough recreational players that would want to play these to make them worth implementing, or offer an expected hourly worth bothering with, and that's not to mention the extra variance that would come with it.
i would love 36 players 6max hypers... the 180 is not a 6max tourney (varriety) and the 36 player field would finish quicker. Given the popularity of 6max hyper stt i would think these would be tremendously popular as it would also attract people from the stt world that shy away from a "proper" 180man mtt with 9man tables
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10-04-2012 , 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JayPez
500/1000 level for 45mans? (big discussion point previously)
Yes please deploy! Please at least let us know ur decision?
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10-04-2012 , 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by thepilator
27 man 9max hypers?? this will be great
yeah or at least make the 27man turbos
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10-04-2012 , 08:03 AM
If you want someone to follow through on these suggestions, please vote for me in http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...hread-1253634/ and I will do my best. Thanks.
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