*** OFFICIAL PokerStars MTTSNG Suggestion Thread ***
04-19-2012
, 03:19 PM
yeah this would be nice, obv for regs to split cuz its too much variance, wouldnt split with fish ldo 
04-20-2012
, 07:41 AM
Would u implement this bb1000 level in 45man soon please?
Last edited by mckrogh; 04-20-2012 at 07:49 AM.
Reason: One time :)
04-20-2012
, 08:40 AM
04-23-2012
, 04:47 AM
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Here are links to a couple of posts from earlier in the thread. The first addresses the question of liquidity in general and the second addresses the specific question of higher buy-in 180 regular speed SNGs.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...8&postcount=65
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=166l
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...8&postcount=65
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=166l
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you forget that reg speed 180s never showed up in the main lobby, only in the SnG subsection.
this is one reason 11/180s (and higher) ran alot less often than turbo 180s that had been (and are still) shown in the main lobby.
earlier there where more non turbo 90s >$15 as well, and knockouts.... where are these tournaments?
i feel that ~$15/180s should be added (if not permanent, at least on weekends) and that everyone would benefit from it. non turbo 180s dont share the same playerpool with 180 turbos and lower, alot of the MTT players look for chances to fill tables up/get in volume when playing reg speed MTTs.
and yea currently the only way to increase volume is playing MTTs on the other pokersides along with the MTTs on stars.
you have 10k+/15k+ fields every day in MTTs. why should these players not want to play 180s? why is there no playerbase for these tournaments????
put them in the mainlobby, make them red
, and profit.
this is one reason 11/180s (and higher) ran alot less often than turbo 180s that had been (and are still) shown in the main lobby.
earlier there where more non turbo 90s >$15 as well, and knockouts.... where are these tournaments?
i feel that ~$15/180s should be added (if not permanent, at least on weekends) and that everyone would benefit from it. non turbo 180s dont share the same playerpool with 180 turbos and lower, alot of the MTT players look for chances to fill tables up/get in volume when playing reg speed MTTs.
and yea currently the only way to increase volume is playing MTTs on the other pokersides along with the MTTs on stars.
you have 10k+/15k+ fields every day in MTTs. why should these players not want to play 180s? why is there no playerbase for these tournaments????
put them in the mainlobby, make them red
, and profit.
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I'm not doubting you when you say that there is a lack of liquidity at the moment, but then surely the follow-up question should be WHY is there apparently insufficient liquidity?
With a site as big as pokerstars, even if you can't really support a regspeed in the region of $20, there really should be enough people online, at least during peak hours, such that 180 of them are willing to pony up around $10 within, say, ten or fifteen minutes of each other, to get a few of these games going. After all, you get 9,000+ people playing the Big $11 every day, and a further 4,000+ playing the Hot $11.
As furo says, I think that visibility is a big issue here — now that these big tournaments have drawn those $11 players online, enough of them would play an $11/180 if they saw it; I'm sure many of those who get bad beat or coolered in the early stages would take another go at something if they thought it would start soon.
I understand that you are only allocated a certain number of spots for SNGs under the MTT tab, but under Tourney>Regular>All you have a bunch of great 180s, and somewhat incongruously, sitting next to them you have those absurd 2cent buyin 990man hyperturbos. Now, I'm sure they're great fun, but they don't rake you anything at all, and they still take ten minutes to fill, because other than degens and bustos, who the hell wants to flip coins for an hour and still only get $4.40 to show for such absurd rungood at the end of it all? Frankly, it seems silly that this has been chosen for that slot, over a "proper" MTT SNG.
If you removed this 2c flipathon from Tourney>Regular>All, and swapped it for, say, an $11/180, the increased visibility would surely go a long way to creating the liquidity you need for these to take off. We as players get a nice tournament which we want, and you would finally start to get some rake from this presumably valuable seventh and final spot you've been granted in what must surely be premium real estate at the top of the MTT lobby. I don't see how they would interfere with either the $8 or $15 turbos, nor should they really interfere with the $3.50r either.
If you don't want them there 24 hours a day then do something similar to what you've done with the Sunday-only 60/180s; spawn them during peak hours only. They could spawn every day between, say, 10am and midnight server time, and if the last one of the night didn't fill by, say, 1am server time, then you can just cancel it and return monies.
furo, I don't think the answer is making them red....
TT
With a site as big as pokerstars, even if you can't really support a regspeed in the region of $20, there really should be enough people online, at least during peak hours, such that 180 of them are willing to pony up around $10 within, say, ten or fifteen minutes of each other, to get a few of these games going. After all, you get 9,000+ people playing the Big $11 every day, and a further 4,000+ playing the Hot $11.
As furo says, I think that visibility is a big issue here — now that these big tournaments have drawn those $11 players online, enough of them would play an $11/180 if they saw it; I'm sure many of those who get bad beat or coolered in the early stages would take another go at something if they thought it would start soon.
I understand that you are only allocated a certain number of spots for SNGs under the MTT tab, but under Tourney>Regular>All you have a bunch of great 180s, and somewhat incongruously, sitting next to them you have those absurd 2cent buyin 990man hyperturbos. Now, I'm sure they're great fun, but they don't rake you anything at all, and they still take ten minutes to fill, because other than degens and bustos, who the hell wants to flip coins for an hour and still only get $4.40 to show for such absurd rungood at the end of it all? Frankly, it seems silly that this has been chosen for that slot, over a "proper" MTT SNG.
If you removed this 2c flipathon from Tourney>Regular>All, and swapped it for, say, an $11/180, the increased visibility would surely go a long way to creating the liquidity you need for these to take off. We as players get a nice tournament which we want, and you would finally start to get some rake from this presumably valuable seventh and final spot you've been granted in what must surely be premium real estate at the top of the MTT lobby. I don't see how they would interfere with either the $8 or $15 turbos, nor should they really interfere with the $3.50r either.
If you don't want them there 24 hours a day then do something similar to what you've done with the Sunday-only 60/180s; spawn them during peak hours only. They could spawn every day between, say, 10am and midnight server time, and if the last one of the night didn't fill by, say, 1am server time, then you can just cancel it and return monies.
furo, I don't think the answer is making them red....
TT
updates?
or do you plan on keeping $4 the highest non turbo SnG BI?