so many threads...

Yeah, excactly?

This was actually what I meant to ask when I wondered if you could put the 7r 90-man in the main lobby I meant the lobby that shows up under: Tourney/Regular/All. Currently there is 7 sit and gos that shows up in the lobby under: Tourney/Regular/All, surely one more sit and go can't hurt?
Pleeaaaasseeeeee!

P.S. I too would like 9 to be paid instead of 12 in the 90-man rebuy, but only because I would like the reward for getting first to be slightly higher.

Change all 90mans to pay 9 imo - perhaps re-brand with a "final table only paid" hook such as is used for some scheduled tourneys.

+ 2

The overwhelming consensus in the thread seems to be to pay 18 and raise the cap to 180 players.

idk, for fish the 12 paid is certainly more apealing than the 12 paid...

QFT... I am boycotting these 90man rebuys, makes no sense to come on here make a tournament that takes from the same playerpool with little demand, and then come in here and ask for suggestions, I hope these 90 mans die a withered death.

+1, it's a no-brainer imo, I don't understand the hesitation to at least trial it, I can't see it hurting 180s in general

Pay 9 instead of 12! YES. obviously i'd prefer a 180man instead.

most importantly though, make them run!! Put them in the tournament lobby,
maybe even run a sng promotion, or kill sngs altogether; i'm not enjoying the in between :P

This. No higher 180 rebuy because of liquidity reasons, but a higher 90 man rebuy has no effect on this liquidity. I don't quite understand this logic.

You know the 180s work, just trial a higher 180 rebuy and watch it grow. As far as I can see the 90 man isn't exactly taking off.

I would think that changes that will only benefit good regulars would scare of the fish, wouldnt that be contra productive?

I am only speaking from a bad regulars point of view but i think the 12 places payout in 90 mans is good. The one thing about 90 man turbos i like to see is a 2-4 dollar buyin so there is something in between 1 dollar and the 7R.

I vote to increase the payout structure in 90mans to 18 so we can appeal more the casual player and or low stakes grinder looking for a lower variance tournament.

Woah there. Awful idea. 12 acceptable, 9 better IMO but 18? Gtfo.

or is it

+1

It's just a matter of time before Stars figures this out. I can't wait!

IMO an 11r 180 player will get much more volume then a $35 180 player.

First place will be approximately 2k meaning more fish will join due to the higher prize pool and better structure.

Also, it makes no sence to have a cap of $60 FO 180 player and a max of a $3r 180 player.

Well, this is debatable. Full Tilt had their's as 9 paid and it was perfect imo but from an all round of view there's something I don't get.

The higher the field SnG then the lower % of players are paid out (correctly so) right down to a limit of 10% of the field, that being the 180-man. Now 10% is still paid out in the maximum sized SnG, a 360-man. So then why as fields get bigger for MTT's does the % then go back up again? ie most of the 1000+ fields see payouts of 13%+. I think SnG payouts need to be balanced more with MTT payouts. Rather than seeing 180-man paying out 13-15% of the field, I'd prefer to see no MTT field of any size paying out more than 10%. Paying out 1000 players from a field of 7500 is ridiculous imo and am pretty sure players would rather cut the field down for the sake of a more flattened and rewarding payout for finishing say 350th from 7500 for example.

So keeping in line with this theory the question is then asked, at which field number to we reach that minimum of 10% players paid? I'd say start it at 90-man

+1!!!!!!!!

I'm going to give an alternative suggestion here, a true hybrid between MTT and SNG, I think this could possibly please both stars AND the players who want 180 rebuys.


Why not do 'On Demand' tournaments? A set number of entrants to start like 90, late reg for a certain(short) period of time. Throw them in the MTT lobby.

For the 90man rebuy 9 pay is definitely best. Players like their being more for first and it feels better and less awkward for their to be 9pay than 12.
You really need to put them in the main mtt lobby or you can never know how popular they could be and what effect they have on the other mttsngs. Should move the $0.02 or $0.10 mttsng from the main lobby if you have to. Could be useful to try to estimate if changing it to a 180 rebuy at some point would have the bad effect on $35 180s you think it would.
I still see no problem changing them to 180s for a trial, putting them in the main looby and you can get stats on the effect they have on the other games.

Final table only paying is kind of a cool "bonus"

why isn't there a $13.50 KO, or $6.50 KO Turbo 180 or 90 man? The non-turbo $7KO 90man doesn't run much.

This would be awesome! $27KO too!! $54KO would also be awesome but doubt there would many of those running, could be wrong though

Please get rid of the $3+.30 turbo rebuy satellites for the Sunday Million and Warm-Up on Monday through Friday because they either get cancelled (the guaranteed seat ones) or with the non-guarantees almost 100% don't produce a seat. When they don't produce a seat, they are a huge waste of time where a bunch of people will get $10-15 for winning (so a profit of only a couple of dollars usually at the most).

If you do decide to keep them, change the payout structure so if there is not enough money to award one seat, then make it winner takes all or a top-heavy structure that makes it worthwhile to fewer winners. Maybe you could change these to the $8+.80 turbo rebuys instead because they seem to always run and produce a seat or more. Thanks.

The best place to post suggestions about satellites, including SNG satellites, is the "OFFICIAL Stars 2012 MTT Discussion Thread", which is in the MTT Community forum.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...hread-1146917/