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11-04-2017 , 03:33 PM
Why are there no $5s in the schedule at all? Just $10 MTTs every hour and everything else is either a live satellite to some plebfest in montenegro or a $0,01 buyin? Why are you guys such ****ing ******s? I opened and then closed your ****house client at 9PM during peakest of peak hours when I noticed there was simply no tournaments to play. This has to be some kind of world record in stupidity to not have standard freezeouts on offer at lower than $22 except for a couple of $11pko bs tournaments at 9PM on a ****ing saturday

You know when we complained about how bad it was to change every $5 into a turbo we didn't mean that you should remove them completely

No low stakes MTTs on offer at all, the lobby is still a messy POS, the client is still a buggy POS, withdrawals take forever, I don't even know what to say except that you guys are the worst of the worst yet still find a way to get worse every day

I have no words

Although I get some sick satisfaction from getting to laugh at the terribleness of your operation with my colleagues, but at this point it's sort of getting like making fun of disabled people or something. You guys are so ******ed it's not even funny anymore, it's just sad
11-04-2017 , 04:37 PM
Have to agree with some of the above - having no standard freezeouts with a buy-in of between $1.10 and $11 currently and for the next 5hrs (during peak time) is IMO, a major error in judgement by PartyPoker and is backwards to what it should be.

IMO, you guys at PartyPoker are currently shooting yourselves in the foot. Players with smaller BR's aren't going to deposit more or jump up and take shots at all the $11 buy-ins on offer - they are simply not going to play on PartyPoker and instead deposit and play elsewhere on other pokersites, where they are catered for better - which is the opposite of what you wan't.

The 'Jab' tourneys we're $5.50 and have been increased to $11. If this was done because of overlays, then the GTD's should've been decreased - not the buy-in raised.

I don't know what PartyPoker's reasoning is for the (IMO) terrible daily schedule currently on offer for smaller stakes players but, IMO, if you want to see growth, player numbers increase and tournaments flourish as a whole across the site, you really need to start listening to the smaller stakes players (like you do the higher stakes players) and overhaul the schedule for smaller buy-in MTT's.

I have little doubt that if you offer more games at a variety of buy-in levels between $1-$11, word will get out and players will come. A number of players who play in those games, will also end up playing in other games and PartyPoker will benefit across the board.
11-04-2017 , 06:28 PM
i'm noticing with the lower stakes mtt's (8 min lvls) the average stacks are getting too short deep into the tournament, right now with 28 players left, the jab warm up has 850k avg stack at 20/40k blinds, surely with 3 tables left the avg should be more than 20bbs? This is part of the reason i don't like the bigger starting stacks, they become pointless when the average stack is this low deep into the tournament.

Maybe the mtt's with 8 min levels throughout should have the variable 10, 12 minute levels added?
11-04-2017 , 07:55 PM
It does not make any sense to run low stakes series with massive fields, spend big money in overlays and delete $5 games after series. When people in this forum asked for $11 games they did not want deletion of $5 games from schedule. They wanted that $11 games are added to schedule.

In fact, on last Sunday before series you had $11 Mini Main Event and $5 Jab at the same time and they both met GTDs. There is no reason to think that $5 games will cannibalize $11 games. Run $5 2k-3k FOs at :30 during peak hours.

Regarding flagships: at 7pm UK/8pm CET run $11 Mini Uppercut (Monday-Saturday) and $11 Mini Main Event on Sundays. This way you could bring back the Jab at $5.

What about making both $1 rebuys (5pm UK/6pm CET and 7pm UK/8pm CET) as $3 tournaments with bigger GTD? People spend $3-4 on these games anyway and as FO/re-entry it will have much nicer structure/gaming experience/growth potential.
11-04-2017 , 07:58 PM
hate recent changes ( few days starting stack of main sunday tournament ) .
11-04-2017 , 08:03 PM
If any of the Party site pros or whatever the hell that committee thing is reads this, filter your lobby for $11 and lower. Think about how many players there are on your site, and how many MTTs are running. One $11 per hour and some random $1 stuff and that's it.

There's basically no way for anyone to make the leap from playing for nickels to $22+ because there are no games running below $22 aside from a few massfield super knockout snoozefests.

Then maybe call your contact on Party, and perhaps kindly request them to hire competent people, and then fire themselves, and perhaps fire everyone else too who has had anything to do with this dumpster fire of a site after 2006.

And while you browse the lobby, maybe also pay attention how badly we need filters and have needed for the last 12 years.
11-04-2017 , 08:50 PM
Simply adding some microstakes mtts wont do anything good for the site. If they just end up being bowlcomps you just attract more and more of these <ABI 5$ grinders from low wage countries. They dont move up they are happy making their living and taking the money slowly but steadily out of the system and making it very hard for recreationals to actually bink something and take a shot.
Powerseries also showed that its pretty hard for PP to hit a 10k+ gtd with a 3$ mtt.
The small/micro-stakes schedule needs a complete overhaul with flagship-mtts. Set a guarantee that's met with 1k+ players and eat the losses for a while on the micros at least. But thats all for naught if nobody can find these things in the lobby. Cant be too hard to add a filter for reg mtts to get all sats out of there.
11-05-2017 , 06:07 AM
I think the most annoying thing is the chopping and changing of ideas every other month. You guys need to pick something, stick with it and deal with it. You have no identity, no semblance of continuity in your brand especially for micros and low stakes.

As much as I'd love to support Patrick et al, I am still regging Stars on my grind days because I know what I'm getting week in, week out. Whereas the same unfortunately cannot be said for party.

GL!
11-05-2017 , 09:11 AM
Have to agree with most of what the recent posts say. There were a decent number of players complaining about the big gap between $1 and $5 MTTs and nothing inbetween. That was quite a while ago, a couple months ago iirc. Feedback was moved to those responsible, and instead of acting according to the feedback you make the gap even bigger. Makes no sense at the slightest.
From what I've seen the micro series schedule was pretty good, buy ins at many different buy in levels, however, the current offering is very unsatisfying for everyone except those playing either nanostakes or midstakes+, while a large part of the overall playerbase is something inbetween.
11-05-2017 , 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Habsfan09
Simply adding some microstakes mtts wont do anything good for the site. If they just end up being bowlcomps you just attract more and more of these <ABI 5$ grinders from low wage countries. They dont move up they are happy making their living and taking the money slowly but steadily out of the system and making it very hard for recreationals to actually bink something and take a shot.
Powerseries also showed that its pretty hard for PP to hit a 10k+ gtd with a 3$ mtt.
The small/micro-stakes schedule needs a complete overhaul with flagship-mtts. Set a guarantee that's met with 1k+ players and eat the losses for a while on the micros at least. But thats all for naught if nobody can find these things in the lobby. Cant be too hard to add a filter for reg mtts to get all sats out of there.

So you're saying that it's better to offer no MTTs at $5 than to offer MTTs that some plebreg from Belarus might play and profit from? Lol

And lol at a $3 MTT needing to hit a 10k guarantee. What do you think it is, 2009? A 1k guarantee would be plenty.


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Originally Posted by ICrushSNGs22
Have to agree with most of what the recent posts say. There were a decent number of players complaining about the big gap between $1 and $5 MTTs and nothing inbetween. That was quite a while ago, a couple months ago iirc. Feedback was moved to those responsible, and instead of acting according to the feedback you make the gap even bigger. Makes no sense at the slightest.
From what I've seen the micro series schedule was pretty good, buy ins at many different buy in levels, however, the current offering is very unsatisfying for everyone except those playing either nanostakes or midstakes+, while a large part of the overall playerbase is something inbetween.
So much this


Either the player reps are idiots, or really bad at relaying feedback, or then whoever working on applying changes is a complete drooler. My money's on all of the above. Either way, somehow everything on Party gets worse and worse every week. Every change they make makes things worse. This is not a case of "good things will happen soon, just wait" like pads and others keep saying. This is a case of someone trying to destroy the product from the inside as fast as possible trying to turn Party into a complete graveyard.

Conspiracy theory: What if Bryan is secretly still employed by PS and was sent to Party on a roque mission to kill their product? It sure would make a lot of sense given what a trainwreck this whole site has become very rapidly ever since he came around.

Add the blatant collusion, rigged promotions, no security, constant glitches etc etc... I don't see why anyone would play on Party. Even Stars is a better option and this is a site that scammed their own customers. It's just really embarrassing all around. I withdrew my bankroll (took 6 days for anyone to even start processing it btw...) and will continue playing elsewhere. Someone lmk if something positive actually happens, I'm tired of pointing out obvious flaws day in and day out only to have things made worse every week

Last edited by Chuck Bass; 11-05-2017 at 09:20 AM.
11-05-2017 , 09:25 AM
i'm pritty sure pads said they are rolling out a new schedule soon?
11-05-2017 , 09:26 AM
i have stated out several times, that its fun to have people like pads and fedor help on your schedule, but they are too rich for their own good, they have no idea what a micro grinder likes to play and why they play.
11-05-2017 , 09:31 AM
Forgot to add, there's an ongoing discussion at the Finnish forums where some micro grinders had won $5 tickets from satellites, then couldn't use them for anything since the $5 MTTs got removed from the schedule the next day without warning. They contacted support and the support had refused to refund anything. Seems fair! This is the level of competence we are dealing with here, guys.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Azoxy
i have stated out several times, that its fun to have people like pads and fedor help on your schedule, but they are too rich for their own good, they have no idea what a micro grinder likes to play and why they play.
This. So much this. It's been obvious since day one that Partypoker pros should be kept the f away from altering anything but superhighroller stuff. They are clueless about how games / schedules work for 99% of Party's player pool. To the outside it looks like they are just hurting things, the only other option is that somehow they aren't being listened to at all and somehow Party does everything the exact opposite than what they suggest. I don't even know which is worse.

I like and respect pads but it's just an undeniable fact that he, along with every other pro, has either a) had 0 positive impact on anything besides possibly superhighroller stuff, or b) is having a huge negative impact. Which is fine because the last I checked he's a sponsored pro poker player who should probably focus on playing anyway. Party just really needs to hire competent people to work on fixing this mess. Literally any poster ITT would almost certainly be better at said job than whoever the knucklehead in charge currently is.

Last edited by Chuck Bass; 11-05-2017 at 09:38 AM.
11-05-2017 , 09:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Azoxy
i have stated out several times, that its fun to have people like pads and fedor help on your schedule, but they are too rich for their own good, they have no idea what a micro grinder likes to play and why they play.
Even though I respect both of the mentioned guys and think they are in for the love and promotion of the game at most, I sadly think this it is correct that they are far away from understanding how a schedule should look like for someone with a <$500 bankroll or less.
11-05-2017 , 09:54 AM
Why no satellites for the Heavyweight title fight warm up (sheesh what a mouthful)?
11-05-2017 , 10:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck Bass
Why are there no $5s in the schedule at all? Just $10 MTTs every hour and everything else is either a live satellite to some plebfest in montenegro or a $0,01 buyin? Why are you guys such ****ing ******s? I opened and then closed your ****house client at 9PM during peakest of peak hours when I noticed there was simply no tournaments to play. This has to be some kind of world record in stupidity to not have standard freezeouts on offer at lower than $22 except for a couple of $11pko bs tournaments at 9PM on a ****ing saturday

You know when we complained about how bad it was to change every $5 into a turbo we didn't mean that you should remove them completely

No low stakes MTTs on offer at all, the lobby is still a messy POS, the client is still a buggy POS, withdrawals take forever, I don't even know what to say except that you guys are the worst of the worst yet still find a way to get worse every day

I have no words

Although I get some sick satisfaction from getting to laugh at the terribleness of your operation with my colleagues, but at this point it's sort of getting like making fun of disabled people or something. You guys are so ******ed it's not even funny anymore, it's just sad
This. Stop eating crayons and get your **** together. How LOL is this.
Run a micro series... the eliminate all your micro mtts. Just WTf ?
11-05-2017 , 10:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Azoxy
i have stated out several times, that its fun to have people like pads and fedor help on your schedule, but they are too rich for their own good, they have no idea what a micro grinder likes to play and why they play.
Quote:
Originally Posted by hapunkt
Even though I respect both of the mentioned guys and think they are in for the love and promotion of the game at most, I sadly think this it is correct that they are far away from understanding how a schedule should look like for someone with a <$500 bankroll or less.
Having worked with Patrick in the past (PokerStrategy) and given his rise from the very bottom to the very top gradually over the years I think you both couldn't be further from the truth.
11-05-2017 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by tjessop
This. Stop eating crayons and get your **** together. How LOL is this.
Run a micro series... the eliminate all your micro mtts. Just WTf ?
And during the micro series they replaced their daily schedule with the series, instead of implementing a new schedule and introduce new players/players who came just for the series to your micro schedule.

Just makes no sense to me.

I would love to keep supporting party by playing on their site as i ahve been doign for the last months, but they are making it so hard.
11-05-2017 , 11:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by UPAY4DINNER
Having worked with Patrick in the past (PokerStrategy) and given his rise from the very bottom to the very top gradually over the years I think you both couldn't be further from the truth.
Good to hear, unfortunatly i have 0 indication or any signs at all to believe this is the case.

the final straw for me was when they implemented the satelite tickets as part of the prize pool. deducting 35$ from a 1$ rebuy prize pool. taking a part of the prize pool and handing it out in 8$ title fight tickets instead of cash, and he actually said in the forums that he thought it was a good idea, how far away from reality can someone be?

totally focused on high stakes, and completely deluded about the lower/micro stakes ( as the daily schedule shows ).

now after monster series i had great hopes but it is slowly fading away.
11-05-2017 , 02:15 PM
not so gto to change schedule every day lol

i had a 5.50 ticket to the 22:00cet turbo and now its dissapeared as the mtt isnt there anymore

can i get $T ?
11-05-2017 , 03:27 PM
ive stopped playing at party now just because of these 20 level late reg it honestly makes me want to poke my own eyes out...
11-05-2017 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by playr
not so gto to change schedule every day lol

i had a 5.50 ticket to the 22:00cet turbo and now its dissapeared as the mtt isnt there anymore

can i get $T ?
No man it didn't disappeared.They change the buy in to this too.
I registered and a few hours later check "my tournaments" and i don't see it
anywhere so i thought i forgot to register.Go to the tournament and i see
that it became 11$ just few hours before the tournament starts....
11-05-2017 , 06:51 PM
FWIW, re-entry doesn't work in the Phased events
11-05-2017 , 07:58 PM
registration closed early in 109 multiphase today, please fix it
11-05-2017 , 08:36 PM
The Millions Online $5k event in December is $5,000 + 300, as opposed to the usual 200 rake (see Powerfest in Sept/May etc.)

Why the rake increase ?

      
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