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03-11-2017 , 04:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDegenFund
What a massive misplay to make the friday tournaments PKO format? Thursday is the universal PKO day
Not everything HAS to be the exact same though, right?
03-12-2017 , 04:32 AM
Hi all

Recently we gathered lots of feedback regarding our leaderboards – our players spoke and we listened!
Starting from Monday 13th March we will award leaderboard points only to players who finish in the money in relevant power series events (buy in minimum $109)

We have 10 x $7100 MILLIONS packages to award to our winners each week
Read all the details on our webpage >
https://www.partypoker.com/whats-goi...-millions.html

Good luck at the tables!

Thanks

Colette
03-12-2017 , 06:09 AM
I think the most common feedback was that the leaderboard for 109+ should be scrapped. Then you should focus your promotions on people playing 0-22$ and build the ecosytem from the ground up, rather than the top down (which wont work).

Also, you now have too many 109s off peak, the PKO 109s tend to cancel a lot, I think everyone would benefit if you made them either 55s or 11s. I am not biased here, as I reg the PKO 109s and would reg the 55s as well. I still tend to favour the 11s, as the gap is a bit too big between 5.50 and 22, adding some 11s instead would help to smooth that transition for many players.

Thanks!
03-12-2017 , 06:11 AM
Also if you start offering promotions to low stakes players, you can just offer higher stake tickets as the prizes, meaning everyone benefits.
03-12-2017 , 07:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by skadooshh
Also if you start offering promotions to low stakes players, you can just offer higher stake tickets as the prizes, meaning everyone benefits.
If you haven't noted, there Million League with lots of added prizes and Sit&Go Hero promotion for micro stakes going on. Party also always has offered lots of 0,01$ overlay sats (also lots of other promotional stuff) for microstakers.

Colette, will the points system still be the same but just so that people who cash get the points?
03-12-2017 , 01:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FarseerFinland
If you haven't noted, there Million League with lots of added prizes and Sit&Go Hero promotion for micro stakes going on. Party also always has offered lots of 0,01$ overlay sats (also lots of other promotional stuff) for microstakers.

Colette, will the points system still be the same but just so that people who cash get the points?
Yes
03-12-2017 , 01:15 PM
FYI -

Our Weigh In tourney has changed format and its now a daily 6- Max Progressive Knockout @18:00CET/12:00ET

Mon - Sat is will have a $20K GTD
On Sundays the guarantee will be $50K

Changes are in place from today, Sunday 12th March

Good luck at the tables


Thanks,

Colette

03-13-2017 , 03:11 AM
Colette!

If I have a 215$ ticket what expires end of the month, but I see that players can register for powerfest..can I use it for that( I register for the tournament before it will expire)?
03-13-2017 , 04:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by daPEPEhu
Colette!

If I have a 215$ ticket what expires end of the month, but I see that players can register for powerfest..can I use it for that( I register for the tournament before it will expire)?
You can register for a powerfest event if already in the lobby - yes
However - please be aware should you unregister post expiry date the ticket will auto expire and will not be returned to your account - also if the tournament is rescheduled or cancelled the ticket would auto expire if the change was made post expiry date (which is unlikely)
03-13-2017 , 08:30 AM
Give some love to the Omaha 8 tournament schedule.
Its so annoying that your biggest tournament is a 11$ turbo (FT bubble has sometime 6-7BB in average which is close to be a lottery). Why you not offering at least one weekly bigger O8 tournament?
1-2 bigger daily tournaments would be nice as well.
Something around 11$ or 22$ could get a nice field, even one in the 100$ would be nice to have.

As mentioned million times here....exactly this buyin range needs some love for your NLH tournaments as well.

Your ticket system stinks a lot!
Those tickets should never expire at all.
And why you have so many different ones? Keep it more simple. When i won a 22$ ticket why not let me choose what i want to play with it. You get so many unhappy customers out of it and your tournament lobby is full of all these satellits with same buyin range for different tournaments. Stop to be too greedy and end the expiring bullshit of your tickets.

I will apply for a job at party poker when you again have a powerfest without Omaha and Omaha 8. So many small details that are so easy too fix in your room.

Just listen to the feedback here. Nearly all of my points you find on every site of this thread.
03-13-2017 , 10:29 AM
I dont understand recent changes. There is still less and less reasons for players to choose your site to play. In short.

I am missing daily vanilla MTTs with 10k+ gtd. It looks like we are left with Drago only now. That is only one tournament and I count all buy-in ranges! I opened 888 lobby and I can see five vanilla MTTs with afordable buyins for players and better structures.

Progressive Bounty tournaments. Again. Afordable buyins, better strucutres, bigger fields, better software on Stars. As mentioned above, if you really want to run these every hour, at least change the buyin to $55.

Satellite players? Hard to imagine choose your site to play these.

I think that you should do some changes ASAP, hopefully before PowerFest. After that there will be a summer and limited room to make some changes.

There used to be a nice $55 rebuy on Party two years ago. You fixed a 100r on Sunday (maybe raise it to 40k gtd - five times in a row reached as I remember correctly). Add $22 or $33 rebuy daily with 10k gtd at the same time and 12min levels. I dont think there is some daily rebuy with 10k+ guarantee on the market now. So give players something they cant find somewhere else.
03-13-2017 , 11:30 AM
Hey Colette,

is it possible to get 215$ mtt tickets converted to sng tickets? I got 2 215$ tickets which will expire, but i will prob not be able to play some 215$ mtts before they expire. Instead i would like to play sng with them, is that possible?

thx
03-13-2017 , 01:02 PM
Can anyone tell me how to resize the text and numbers on Party thanks.
03-13-2017 , 01:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by suk12
I dont understand recent changes. There is still less and less reasons for players to choose your site to play. In short.

I am missing daily vanilla MTTs with 10k+ gtd. It looks like we are left with Drago only now. That is only one tournament and I count all buy-in ranges! I opened 888 lobby and I can see five vanilla MTTs with afordable buyins for players and better structures.
This. We were praising Party ~ a yr ago for being for being the only site left w/ mostly vanilla tourneys. Now it's turned into a psko festival like stars.

Is that what the people rly want?
03-13-2017 , 02:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexos
This. We were praising Party ~ a yr ago for being for being the only site left w/ mostly vanilla tourneys. Now it's turned into a psko festival like stars.

Is that what the people rly want?
Agree. Weekdays on party are really boring; while on sunday its probably the best site to play on.

If you start grinding around 18-19 CET on a weekday you basically only have one decent 109 vanilla to play (uppercut). Way to many KO tourneys in the sched right now.

There's definitely room to add a daily $55 30k guarantee and a $215 20k guarantee on weekdays too. Starting anywhere from 16.00 cet to 21.00 CET.

The 55rebuy on party was a old fav tourney of mine, could easily be added to the daily sched with a 20k guarantee too.

(You should consider changing the 18.00 530 tournament into a $215) you already have 3x 530 everyday in the sched.

Also highlightning these special majors with a darker colour will help people to see them.

Last edited by DBerglin; 03-13-2017 at 02:45 PM.
03-13-2017 , 02:57 PM
How they hell can they have a daily $55 30k tourney when the counterpunch struggles to get 7.5k. How are they gonna suddenly 4x that? They also tried a 20 rebuy but it didn't get going. The 10 rebuy struggles, it would get more if it was moved to the medium tab.

There are so many tournaments, a lot starting at the same time, so this spreads the field out and keeps fields smaller. Probably won't be firing the Weigh In very often now it has changed to Prog KO 109. Maybe some people will like it though.

Personally some days I don't want to fire 109s or maybe I'm on a downswing. If I want to drop down from that I have to divide my buy in by 5? Doesn't make sense. So I go elsewhere and play. There is a massive hole in the schedule but they are trying hard so kudos for that.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DBerglin
Agree. Weekdays on party are really boring; while on sunday its probably the best site to play on.

If you start grinding around 18-19 CET on a weekday you basically only have one decent 109 vanilla to play (uppercut). Way to many KO tourneys in the sched right now.

There's definitely room to add a daily $55 30k guarantee and a $215 20k guarantee on weekdays too. Starting anywhere from 16.00 cet to 21.00 CET.

The 55rebuy on party was a old fav tourney of mine, could easily be added to the daily sched with a 20k guarantee too.

(You should consider changing the 18.00 530 tournament into a $215) you already have 3x 530 everyday in the sched.

Also highlightning these special majors with a darker colour will help people to see them.
03-13-2017 , 03:01 PM
Well you wanna know why the 55 7,5k struggle to get to 7,5k prizepool? its because of the guarantee / lack of sats id assume.

Put the guarantee up change the name and put a nice colour and people will come. Its not harder than that. Would 109 uppercut get 500 entries everyday if it was a 10k guarantee? Doubt it.


Dont you remember when the 75 freezeout struggled to get to 5k guarantee on Stars before, then they changed it to a red Big $75, same timeslot, same buyin but a bigger GTD and suddenly over 500people played it everyday.

Last edited by DBerglin; 03-13-2017 at 03:14 PM.
03-13-2017 , 03:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bergeroo
How they hell can they have a daily $55 30k tourney when the counterpunch struggles to get 7.5k. How are they gonna suddenly 4x that? They also tried a 20 rebuy but it didn't get going. The 10 rebuy struggles, it would get more if it was moved to the medium tab.

There are so many tournaments, a lot starting at the same time, so this spreads the field out and keeps fields smaller.

There is a massive hole in the schedule but they are trying hard so kudos for that.
One of the main problems are too many tournaments start at the same time, if they didn't have such a cluster of withered mtt's i believe they could achieve some bigger gtd's (low stakes mtts are not even reaching gtd's now)

It is just awfully boring to see the same tournaments run every hour. This along with poor structures and few buy in options, the offerings are just not very appealing. Would like to know what you think they are "trying"
03-13-2017 , 03:47 PM
Yeah but Party don't have the 'Big' concept, so let's walk before we can run. Achieving a 10k guarantee 7 days a week should be the first aim.

However we know that Party won't provide $55 sats as they will lose some liquidity from their 109 games as a result, so I don't really see how a massive $55 buy in is going to happen. A $10k guarantee might be sustainable. If they can get this going in the spring and maintain it over summer then they could try to grow it in September.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DBerglin
Well you wanna know why the 55 7,5k struggle to get to 7,5k prizepool? its because of the guarantee / lack of sats id assume.

Put the guarantee up change the name and put a nice colour and people will come. Its not harder than that. Would 109 uppercut get 500 entries everyday if it was a 10k guarantee? Doubt it.


Dont you remember when the 75 freezeout struggled to get to 5k guarantee on Stars before, then they changed it to a red Big $75, same timeslot, same buyin but a bigger GTD and suddenly over 500people played it everyday.
03-13-2017 , 03:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by suk12
I dont understand recent changes. There is still less and less reasons for players to choose your site to play. In short.

I am missing daily vanilla MTTs with 10k+ gtd. It looks like we are left with Drago only now. That is only one tournament and I count all buy-in ranges! I opened 888 lobby and I can see five vanilla MTTs with afordable buyins for players and better structures.

Progressive Bounty tournaments. Again. Afordable buyins, better strucutres, bigger fields, better software on Stars. As mentioned above, if you really want to run these every hour, at least change the buyin to $55.

Satellite players? Hard to imagine choose your site to play these.

I think that you should do some changes ASAP, hopefully before PowerFest. After that there will be a summer and limited room to make some changes.

There used to be a nice $55 rebuy on Party two years ago. You fixed a 100r on Sunday (maybe raise it to 40k gtd - five times in a row reached as I remember correctly). Add $22 or $33 rebuy daily with 10k gtd at the same time and 12min levels. I dont think there is some daily rebuy with 10k+ guarantee on the market now. So give players something they cant find somewhere else.
+1 for everything. At least change half of current 109$ PSKOs to 55$ ones, maybe every second. Jump between 22 and 109 is too much, also from 109 to 530 (you could change one highroller to 215).

I know there's one daily 22r with 10k guaranteed in MPN, but don't know anything else.

Changes are usually for good, but they really should be announced more than 24 hours beforehand. And I wouldn't have noticed most changes since you don't always send e-mails to players about critical changes.
03-13-2017 , 04:00 PM
@Bergeroo,

I think we already have proved to party that we can walk (Just look at how successful and huge everything is during powerfest series. Its a great timing to start to run.

I'm not sure why you think 10k guarantee would be more successful than the current 7,5k guarantee. Can't see how 10k gtd is that much more appealing to play.

I believe in the concept that GTD makes the tournaments, not the other way around.
03-13-2017 , 05:34 PM
Not sure I agree there is too much PSKO, looking at just $109s for the day.

9am - $109 vanilla
11am - $109 vanilla
1pm - $109 vanilla
3pm - $109 vanilla
5pm - $109 psko
6pm - $109 SKO
7pm - $109 vanilla
8pm - $109 psko
9pm - $109 turbo (8 mins blinds)
10pm - $109 vanilla
11pm - $109 psko
midnight - $109 vanilla

So 12 $109s throughout the day.

7 vanilla $109s
1 "turbo"
3 pskos
1 sko

On top of this 3 $530 vanillas.

At lower stakes it looks like

5pm - $55 vanilla
5pm - $22 vanilla
6p - $55 SKO
6pm- $22 vanilla
6:30pm - $22 turbo
7pm - $22 vanilla
7:30 - $22 turbo
8pm - $55 vanilla
8pm - $22 psko
8:30- $22 turbo
9pm- $22 vanilla
9:30 - $22 psko
10pm - $22 vanilla
10:30- $22 turbo
11- $22 psko
11:30 - $22 turbo
midnight - $22 vanilla

So 17 mid stakes tournaments

8 vanilla
5 "turbos"
3 pskos
1 sko


"now its a PSKO festival just like stars" really don't think thats fair.

If anything, I think a really big PSKO is actually missing from the schedule if anything, just look at how stars bounty builders out perform their equivalent bigs.
03-13-2017 , 05:39 PM
Some PSKOs didn't launch today I guess. Yesterday there was 8 109$ PSKOs (12:00, 14:00, 16:00, 18:00, 22:00, 01:00 and 03:00 and new Weigh-in @ 19:00) EET / CET+1).

Also re-entry is no vanilla (Uppercuts I and II).

E: OurSurveySays, for some reason PSKOs disappear from lobby soon after they are finished. Did you notice that? You should look what is in program tomorrow.
03-13-2017 , 06:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OurSurveySays
Not sure I agree there is too much PSKO, looking at just $109s for the day.

9am - $109 vanilla
11am - $109 vanilla
1pm - $109 vanilla
3pm - $109 vanilla
5pm - $109 psko
6pm - $109 SKO
7pm - $109 vanilla
8pm - $109 psko
9pm - $109 turbo (8 mins blinds)
10pm - $109 vanilla
11pm - $109 psko
midnight - $109 vanilla


"now its a PSKO festival just like stars" really don't think thats fair.

If anything, I think a really big PSKO is actually missing from the schedule if anything, just look at how stars bounty builders out perform their equivalent bigs.
I'm talking about prime-time mostly, starting with Drago, uppercut (when its not a ko as well), then you have clubber/balboa which are turbos.

In between you have a cpl psko's 109 with low guarantee targeted to leaderboard hunters who are forced to play those. You probably added them since the uppercut doesn't overlay anymore. "Our" suggestion is to support a 55$ range buyins instead of adding pskos with low guarantees.

But yeah, party didn't have any psko, so from that to 30% of sched being psko is quite a jump no.
03-13-2017 , 06:12 PM
pads, would like to get your thoughts on some of the things i think are bad for the site.

Why are there only a "set" number of buy in's? The vast majority of buy in's are $5.5, 22s and 109s. If you play lower than 109s, there is so little to choose from, players will look elsewhere when playing low - mid stakes. Theres gotta be more choice, I think the site would be much better off if they removed so many of the same buy in's and replaced them with a range 11s, 33s, 55s etc.

The timing of tournaments, again everything just seems so static, why do most tournaments have to begin on the hour? i just don't think it works as well as the normal schedules we see on almost all other sites. Wouldn't be so bad if there more of a mix of games to play, instead its just feels like i'm playing the same tournament every hour.

The games, almost every tournament on the site is a 9 handed freezeout with 30k stacks and 10/12, 12/15 blind levels. Then we have 6 max turbo's, why can't there be different formats like more 8 max etc? Again everything is just to similar, it just gets dull very quickly.

The structures, i think you commented saying there would be improvements, is this happening?

cheers.

      
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