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03-17-2011 , 03:34 PM
I just saw an older woman (70+) driving around in a Lexus with a Connecticut license plate that says MONIES

Do you think her name is Monie or ?
03-17-2011 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Beerocrat
I just saw an older woman (70+) driving around in a Lexus with a Connecticut license plate that says MONIES

Do you think her name is Monie or ?
Mer Brit imo.
03-17-2011 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by smiteme
Im hunting for jobs currently... My god this sucks. So hard to be motivated to rewrite my damn cover letter everytime I send one off... This process better pay off in the long run
If you hate writing cover letters and you want good long-term results, I recommend not applying for jobs online and concentrating on getting a contact at a company you've specifically targeted to work at. And then apply as you will know who has the power to hire you and what they're actually looking for. Maybe this is what you're doing and just submitting online. But if not, opening any sort of dialog with anyone at a company you want to get in with is the A+ way to go.

This is essentially what networking does (as with a big network you'd automatically know someone who knows someone at basically any company) and so if you don't do it already will likely be more painful than writing cover letters. But at least you know the time you're putting in will have tangible worth in some way (you learn more about the company, you grow your network by +1 person for the future, you get experience talking and learning about your field or job skills, etc.).
03-17-2011 , 04:18 PM
Thanks for the advice... I've gotten similar advice from my advisors at the university.

I'm applying to work as a research assistant in clinical psychology (neurology mostly) across the states. My primary ones are working with substance abuse, PTSD, MS, etc...

Unfortunately, most of the 'job postings' I can find don't have any information about the PI or how to get in contact with the lab... For those ones I'm just doing a traditional application. The ones that I've found that do have the info I am attaching my cover letter to a formal email that is directed more towards getting in contact with them.

I've gotten the advice from some people to mail hard letters, but most of the people in the field i've talked to say that those wont get as much attention as emails because the people are typically so busy... We'll see i get a lot of contradicting advice.. i just want to find something now lol
03-17-2011 , 05:03 PM
03-17-2011 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TBadr
You got it! wil be waiting for xfer and post here for confirmation.
Recieved $60 from Deurdy on FTP. Thank you!
03-17-2011 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by smiteme
Thanks for the advice... I've gotten similar advice from my advisors at the university.

I'm applying to work as a research assistant in clinical psychology (neurology mostly) across the states. My primary ones are working with substance abuse, PTSD, MS, etc...

Unfortunately, most of the 'job postings' I can find don't have any information about the PI or how to get in contact with the lab... For those ones I'm just doing a traditional application. The ones that I've found that do have the info I am attaching my cover letter to a formal email that is directed more towards getting in contact with them.

I've gotten the advice from some people to mail hard letters, but most of the people in the field i've talked to say that those wont get as much attention as emails because the people are typically so busy... We'll see i get a lot of contradicting advice.. i just want to find something now lol
Email vs. hard mail is a field by field call. So if ppl in the field say "email" do email.

The thing is about your approach is that you're spending a lot of time on individual tactics that have a very low success rate (emailing out your resume to online listings). So an approach to consider would be something like:

1) List the areas in "the states" that you either want to be in or have the most/best opportunities for what you specifically want to do. Rank them

2) Start with your top area rank from above and see if you know someone in that area. Does STTF? Do any other online friends/ppl/FB acquaintances? List them out. If you really really really can't think of anyone associated with that area in any way, either move to the second rank area or think of anyone you know who might know someone in this top area. List those ppl out.

3) Now make a list of the places in that area that either have the position you're looking for or might want to have it.

4) Contact the people on the list from #2 above with a very brief, to the point, and easy to do something with message, such as: "I want to work as aresearch assistant in clinical psychology somewhere in [insert area from #1]. Do you happen to know anyone at one of these companies or have a connection who could put me in contact with someone who does?

[insert list from #3]"

The most important thing about networking is to be able to use whatever network you have to get in contact with the type of person you want to talk with (someone who works where you want to work). So then you can get in touch with that person and get real info on the place at the very least, and at the most a recommendation.
03-17-2011 , 06:23 PM
Cover letters seem quite outdated to me.
Imo just give a brief introduction on why you are applying, which will generally be that the job seems interesting because you think it is a good function to start off building experience, while the organisation looks nice. If company is big mention you like how bigger companies have good long term career opportunities.
Just put that in the email, attach CV and profit.
03-17-2011 , 06:40 PM
Thats good advice Yugo... I don't know anyone in the field that I'm getting into (other than a couple professors at the university, but they aren't affiliated with the research aspect at all... I have talked to them FWIW, which is how i landed a summer research position last summer) ..

But, what I can do is look for articles online in the area that I want to do research, and then contact the authors directly... That seems like a really good route. I'm gonna get started on that, thanks
03-17-2011 , 07:27 PM
About to go do shrooms with my gf... Its her first time and I haven't taken them in about a year. I'm stoked
03-17-2011 , 07:30 PM
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03-17-2011 , 07:35 PM
I rly want to do shrooms/ecstacy at some point in the next couple of months. Mebbe ecstacy in Nawlens for spring break.
03-17-2011 , 07:40 PM
imo, job applications are pretty universally terrible.

i've employed a handful of staff over the last year or so, and can't think of a single resume/cover letter that was the least bit useful in identifying quality candidates.

All I want as an employing manager is:

a) evidence that you have read the job ad, and have a credible claim at being able to complete the job requirements; and

b) the potential capability of being able to do the job in the future.

I think that there is a huge business opportunity for job-seeker advisers, who can tell a job-seeker how to improve their application. Unfortunately, the potential customers are not particularly well paying, which may cause problems.
03-17-2011 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Josem
imo, job applications are pretty universally terrible.
This is accurate in my experience interviewing programmers for our team. So many resumes are terribad. As far as cover letters, I don't see many, and they are almost always transparent and pointless. A good resume definitely matters to me. The ones I like best are concise and flow logically, putting the most relevant details up front, not elaborating too deeply on anything.
03-17-2011 , 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by smiteme
Thats good advice Yugo... I don't know anyone in the field that I'm getting into (other than a couple professors at the university, but they aren't affiliated with the research aspect at all... I have talked to them FWIW, which is how i landed a summer research position last summer) ..

But, what I can do is look for articles online in the area that I want to do research, and then contact the authors directly... That seems like a really good route. I'm gonna get started on that, thanks
Sounds like a really good idea, and fun!

Per Josem's comments that CVs and resumes are outdated. That's all well and good but 90%+ of companies I'd guess won't look at **** unless you have something in a format they can compare against and is familiar to them. That's why the people who get jobs are the people who have some sort of "in" and know someone who knows someone or whatever. If someone vouched for a person or even just said "hey this person seems ok" I'd be much more likely to interview them than just seeing a resume/cv combo even if it was somewhat unique.
03-17-2011 , 10:05 PM
I nearly pulled off an epic WWF comeback vs Beerocrat but he pozzed me good by plopping an S on my big comeback word.

He knows his 2 letter words, that is the key to everything.
03-17-2011 , 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Deurdy
Cover letters seem quite outdated to me.
Imo just give a brief introduction on why you are applying, which will generally be that the job seems interesting because you think it is a good function to start off building experience, while the organisation looks nice. If company is big mention you like how bigger companies have good long term career opportunities.
Just put that in the email, attach CV and profit.
All that advise is geared towards telling someone why you want to work for them. Why would they care? They want to know why they should hire you. Ie, why are you a good fit for the job, how do your skills/experience match what they are looking for.

If I was hiring someone one, I wouldn't really care if they want the job because they think it's interesting.

edit: second last job I applied for: the resume got me a first interview, the first interview got me told I was getting a second interview...then I never heard from them again and they wouldn't answer my emails...
03-18-2011 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Beerocrat
This is accurate in my experience interviewing programmers for our team. So many resumes are terribad. As far as cover letters, I don't see many, and they are almost always transparent and pointless. A good resume definitely matters to me. The ones I like best are concise and flow logically, putting the most relevant details up front, not elaborating too deeply on anything.
I've found this to be true too. People who have hired me told me to just write a cover letter that doesn't embarrass yourself (like sending a picture of you on a horse, which I've seen) then you'll be fine.
03-18-2011 , 01:49 AM
I hire people. My policy is that as long as you disclose your prison and jail time and it was for something cool like drugs or fighting it's all good.
03-18-2011 , 02:02 AM
Just got home from working the 2nd round of the NCAA BBall tournament in Tucson. Here's a pic (crappy phone-cam) of my workstation:



That's right. Center court, floor level. With a live monitor of all other games around the country, etc. I called all four games today, 2 more on Saturday. Fun times.
03-18-2011 , 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DevinLake
All that advise is geared towards telling someone why you want to work for them. Why would they care? They want to know why they should hire you. Ie, why are you a good fit for the job, how do your skills/experience match what they are looking for.

If I was hiring someone one, I wouldn't really care if they want the job because they think it's interesting.

edit: second last job I applied for: the resume got me a first interview, the first interview got me told I was getting a second interview...then I never heard from them again and they wouldn't answer my emails...
Ime it's far better to get them to invite you first and then in the interview elaborate why they should hire you.
When you don't have experience yet all you have to offer is an academic basis, good set of brains and the willingness to learn.
And a company is interested to learn if you're keen to stay long term and find them interesting, because they will not like you leaving after two tears or so just when you started to build experience and more applicable knowledge about the business.
Your CV will generally be the thing that gets you invited, so that needs to be good, the rest needs to come from the interviews.
I've been on both sides of the table several times over the years.
03-18-2011 , 03:45 AM
2p2 wsop party on july 7, imo.

anyone likely to go?
03-18-2011 , 04:37 AM
Never knew slacka was such a cutie pie.

So i rolled out tonight with my birth certificate and soc security cared as id. It worked but I just got home I cant find either or my debit card. So i have no license, no debit card, no social security card, no birth certificate, my only id is my ymca card. How ****ed am I?
03-18-2011 , 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Rusemandingo
Never knew slacka was such a cutie pie.

So i rolled out tonight with my birth certificate and soc security cared as id. It worked but I just got home I cant find either or my debit card. So i have no license, no debit card, no social security card, no birth certificate, my only id is my ymca card. How ****ed am I?
Identity Theft Confirmed.

      
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