Ok, my HUD isn't working so I don't have actual stats on villain, he has raise/folded to me a couple times when I have 3 bet him and he hasn't really shown down anything bad. There are 23 left, I have been real active at this table, abusing the **** out of the bubble which just broke not too long ago. This villains pretty bad and I could've 3 bet pre but decided to see a flop IP as I just 3 bet him a few hands prior and he folded. We flop a sick combo draw here and he checks it to us. I bet and he calls, now the turn pairs the board. Do you guys like firing a 2nd barrel here or checking behind and just hoping you don't miss a ridiculous amount of outs? Him check/calling the flop could be QQ/TT and we could technically be drawing dead on the turn. Anyways, what is your play here?

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BB: t59645 M = 14.91
UTG: t10626 M = 2.66
UTG+1: t44439 M = 11.11
MP1: t15135 M = 3.78
MP2: t82703 M = 20.68
CO: t72583 M = 18.15
Hero (BTN): t57000 M = 14.25
SB: t46934 M = 11.73

Pre Flop: (t4000) Hero is BTN with K J
3 folds, MP2 raises to t4800, 1 fold, Hero calls t4800, 2 folds

Flop: (t13600) Q T 6 (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets t8000, MP2 calls t8000

Turn: (t29600) 6 (2 players)
MP2 checks

#1) I'd bet a little less OTF (1/2 pot ish= 6955) for pot control reasons giving us more options on later streets.

#2) We have a huge draw hand and are most likely even a favorite/ahead so I really dont mind firing a 2nd shell and obviously getting stacks in if villain C/R's us..

This being said we could check behind turn and get off easily if we miss and he fires or possibly still get stacks if we hit because now we concealed the strength of our hand with the check/back..

either way I dont think we go wrong here.

Normally I bet smaller OTF but I kind of wanted it to look like I was committing myself to the hand, and I'm willing to play a big pot here when I see this flop.

What is your turn sizing if you fire again?

Also, I think I met you at Turning Stone last time I was there lol.

fold pre
as played shove turn or check behind. b/f would truely be horrible.

I think if we do decide to fire again now we have to do exactly what you tried on the flop which is bet an amount that lets villain know we are not folding ever, perhaps even a jam TBH if you dont mind a hi-variance type of play...

I was in TS in June and played a few tournies. I was with some of the young regs so we probably did meet, send me a PM and I'll add you to SKYPE and we can discuss HHs etc

I was thinking the same earlier. We start the hand 35bbs effective in position on the button. Personally I like to be 40bb + in order to attempt a flat and play post flop here.

This year I have experimented with flatting more rather then just 3betting or folding because I feel I have an edge post flop vs most randoms but as I said I kind of like to be a bit deeper than 35bbs....

no way I am folding pre on the button here...flatting is fine

I like betting the flop and see your reasoning for your sizing but at the same time I would try to keep it as close to our standard bet size as possible

I would go ahead and barrel turn for 15750 and plan on shoving all rivers if checked to

Good board to triple barrel after original raiser c/c's flop. Bet less on flop though so we'll still have a decent amount to shove on river.

can you provide us with a street by street betsizing plan please good sir?

6K on flop (usually when checked to on this flop, villain's are just c/f, but this sizing may encourage him to raise in which case we can 3-bet jam, plus if we are planning on firing multiple barrels, then him peeling small flop bet and folding later in hand is very profitable)

13K on turn

shove river (will be 33K into 51K)

thanks for the posts guys, as i was saying the villain is an idiot, i made it 14k on the turn (which i now wish i checked behind) and he shoved, guess what he had?

A9 of SPADES and i still brick out on the river :/ really sucked was for first in chips with 20 donks left lol. anyways thx again for the posts.