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03-30-2015 , 03:10 PM
easy on sarcasm plz as Im mainly a cash game player.

around 5600 entries left out of 13,150. 1710 places paid.

PokerStars - $5+$0.50|200/400 Ante 50 NL - Holdem - 9 players

Villain was playing a lot of hands but all his calls or shoves all in pre were well played hence his stack:
- 3Bet Blind vs Steal All-In (Eff. Stacks: BB >= 8) with {99} (1)
- 3Bet Not All-In (Eff. Stacks: BB >= 10) with {QQ} (1)
- Raised or Called All-in Preflop (Eff. Stacks: BB >= 22) with {AQo} (1)

limper was a fish. No reads yet on limp/fold or limp/call pre.

CB Flop 67% (6)
CB turn 67% (3)
FtCB flop 0% (1)
FtCB turn 0% (1)

No post flop reads yet.


CO: 6,945 (VPIP: 32.14, PFR: 3.70, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
BTN: 7,977 (VPIP: 34.48, PFR: 20.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
Hero (SB): 12,550
BB: 39,774 (VPIP: 40.74, PFR: 25.93, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 29)
UTG: 10,302 (VPIP: 10.34, PFR: 3.45, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
UTG+1: 26,983 (VPIP: 21.95, PFR: 7.50, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 42)
MP: 6,852 (VPIP: 10.34, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
MP+1: 19,456 (VPIP: 44.83, PFR: 13.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
MP+2: 4,070 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)

9 players post ante of 50, Hero posts SB 200, BB posts BB 400

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,050) Hero has K T

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 400, fold, Hero raises to 1,400, BB calls 1,000, fold

Flop: (3,650, 2 players) 9 6 9
Hero bets 1,387, BB calls 1,387

Turn: (6,424, 2 players) T
Hero checks, BB bets 2,000, Hero raises to 9,713 and is all-in

Comments on all streets plz.
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03-30-2015 , 04:36 PM
Seems a bit excessive. Not sure you are ever getting called by worse, I am folding QT to your shove for sure. Given villain's stack, and he had position on you pre, I could definitely see him having a 9 here, or 78. The turn bet looks weak, but if you think he is weak what are you trying to fold out?
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03-30-2015 , 05:37 PM
Pre is too much, flop is optimistic, and turn is a bluff right?

If you're gonna lead the flop than you should lead OTT as well, and fold to a raise.

You need a plan bro, and pot control isn't something that we decide on when we get to that street.
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03-31-2015 , 08:09 AM
I agree pre is a lil too much.

I would expect villain to 3Bet pre all overpairs. Havent seen him calling big raises with offsuit connectors yet so I assumed he only has suited 9x, 88- and broadways. I thought it was a good flop to cbet with a plan to dub on good turns.

The x/r ott was mostly for protection, to get value from all his floats, worse Tx and underpairs that value bet for protection (I expect this villain to call me with Tx and 77-88). I hate spots like these that I have to cbet turn and after hating 1/3 of the deck otr to x/f. Triple barreling seems a bit of an overplay with this hand so at the moment it didnt seem bad even if villain x-back I could get another street of value on safe rivers. But considering stack sizes I could have bet about 1/2 pot ott and still be left with 15bb if I decide to x/f otr.

Also.. why is my bet size otf weak? The board is pretty dry..
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04-01-2015 , 05:22 AM
Ask yourself this - what worse or better is calling ? Folding ? If the ratio of worse to better is greater when calling qmd vice versa for folding then you have your answer

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04-02-2015 , 01:44 AM
I would continue ott and try to get value from 55/77/88 and maybe even some other stuff like A8.

As played you should definitely just be calling ott and re-evaluating otr.
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04-05-2015 , 05:59 AM
Dont like playing K10off OOP especially against aggro. With that play you are excessively commiting yourself more to the pot. OOP. i would usually muck it. CO call looks a bit trappy though, consideringthat he knows that villain might 3-bet him.
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04-05-2015 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KZ_KZ
Dont like playing K10off OOP especially against aggro. With that play you are excessively commiting yourself more to the pot. OOP. i would usually muck it. CO call looks a bit trappy though, consideringthat he knows that villain might 3-bet him.
CO is a loose passive fish.. dont think he understands as much as you say.

Do people think that KTo is not profitable at this spot to iso the fish?
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04-05-2015 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by NikTheGreek
Do people think that KTo is not profitable at this spot to iso the fish?
Nope. Part of our edge over the fish is that we have good hand selection and we use position. It isn't overshoving the turn with top pair.
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04-05-2015 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by NikTheGreek
Do people think that KTo is not profitable at this spot to iso the fish?
I think this may be a case where cash game and tournament logic differ (you say you play mostly cash). In this case, with about 30 bbs, I too would advocate just completing from the SB here. Inflating the pot to 3-4 spr oop is just not particularly desirable and is going to get us into some tough spots post, especially when BB flats in addition to CO.

If effective stacks were 100bbs and CO has proven himself to be uber-fish, that's a totally different scenario. At that stage of the tournament, it's more like playing a cash game.
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04-05-2015 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
I think this may be a case where cash game and tournament logic differ (you say you play mostly cash). In this case, with about 30 bbs, I too would advocate just completing from the SB here. Inflating the pot to 3-4 spr oop is just not particularly desirable and is going to get us into some tough spots post, especially when BB flats in addition to CO.

If effective stacks were 100bbs and CO has proven himself to be uber-fish, that's a totally different scenario. At that stage of the tournament, it's more like playing a cash game.
^^^ much better answer than mine. Not something I'd thought of, thanks!
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04-05-2015 , 04:48 PM
Other than the sizing, i'm ok with raising pre. CO should have a bunch of hands in his range that we dominate (K6+, T8+) and completing when we are oop vs 2 players reduces our postflop plan to playing fit or fold. It also gives the BB option to raise himself, which puts us in an awkward spot. This would be near the bottom of my raising range tho, both in terms of hand strength and stacksize.

Cbetting flop is fine imo, but too small, i'd go for 1.8k.

As played i'm not sure 6x or 88 is calling much on the turn and he probably has a bunch of air/floats in his range also, so x/c might be better than b/f vs a guy who seems agressive.

As mentioned by others, x/shoving doesn't seem to be optimal play
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04-06-2015 , 12:50 AM
thx for answers.. a lot makes sense
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