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Live tough spot with AA help please Live tough spot with AA help please

08-19-2009 , 12:52 AM
14 people left blinds are at 800-1600 harrahs did away wih antes for some reason. I'm utg+2 with AA I have a stack of 34k. I open to 3900 folds to bb who is chip leader at table with 72k and he calls. He has been fairly tight and passive since I have been at the table with him. Will open about 3x and check down when misses all boards. He floated me oop earlier with kq when I had ak on a 227 flop cc and cc turn folded to river bet.

10200 in pot.
Flop 334.
Bb checks
hero bet 6700
BB calls 6700

23600 in pot
turn 5
BB checks
hero 14000
bb calls 14000

58600 in pot

river 6
bb insta bets 50 k all in.
Hero?

I had about 17k left the only hands I really thought he had a set or 77 and hit straight with over pair or an overpaid which I feel like I'm
ahead of a lot of his range here. Thoughts analysis on every street please.


bluff raise once and folded to a shove so I do not think he has a bluff at all.
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08-19-2009 , 12:56 AM
My table image has be tight and aggro I only should down prem hands
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08-19-2009 , 01:05 AM
Numbers on this hand aren't working. You say 34k preflop and it seems like you're betting 25k over the space of the hand which leaves 9k on the river.

Are you asking if that's a call? Really? You played this hand fine, imo.

I say call and see him table A5, 56 or an overpair to the board.

If he has any of the hands that crush you then this is the wrong forum to post in.

Last edited by randompoker; 08-19-2009 at 01:11 AM.
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08-19-2009 , 01:05 AM
I'd just push the turn here. it's about a pot sized bet by my calculations. and it saves you from making any further decisions. it's unlikely he has a 3. if he ends up beating you then that's just too bad. as played though I think you just have to call and hate yourself when he flips whatever beat you over. or get lucky and have him hold something ridiculous. idk what else to say.
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08-19-2009 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by randompoker
Numbers on this hand aren't working. You say 34k preflop and it seems like you're betting 25k over the space of the hand which leaves 9k on the river.

Are you asking if that's a call? Really? You played this hand fine, imo.

I say call and see him table A5, 56 or an overpair to the board.

If he has any of the hands that crush you then this is the wrong forum to post in.
I know my numbers are off was rough est since hand happened almost 24 hours. My question is should this be a call/fold? I am super short but I'll still have arounds 10bbs. I feel like I'm dead I should strentgh in the entire hand and he donk leads the river for my tournament life. Just didn't feel like a bluff.
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08-19-2009 , 02:26 AM
I don't think it matters if it feels like a bluff, with the price you're getting to call. You have to call this ainec.
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08-19-2009 , 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mizztagoo
he donk leads the river for my tournament life. Just didn't feel like a bluff.
Maybe he didn't see his bet as a bluff. Doesn't mean he has the best of it.
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08-19-2009 , 02:39 AM
you are not deep enough to consider folding AA on that board
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08-19-2009 , 05:58 AM
ALL IN ON TURN
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08-19-2009 , 06:15 AM
Def an all-in bet on the turn IMO. You got your value pre and on the flop from your AA's, I think it's time to get it in there and not worry bout squeezing any more value out of him on the turn.

As played it's a call. He will show up with the best hand a fair amount of the time, but there is def some argument for him to not have the best hand here. NOT a bluff, just not the best hand.

If he had a 3 or the strait, would he really not check raise you all-in on the turn??? Seems silly to check call the turn and lead the river with a monster. It gives you some sort of option to fold, like you are arguing in this thread. Plus it's not like you have fold equity on the turn.

Now he might not check raise you with a hand like 99's or 10's but he would most likely lead with them on the river. Why you ask? If he had a hand like 99's or 10's on this board, he knows that he is check calling most rivers to your all-in bet so if it's a good river for his hand why not bet and maybe you will fold a better hand or call with A high, a hand you most likely would have checked trough with on the river. If he is going to call with the worst on the river, no reason to not bet and get some value on the times your light...

Insta call and take it for what it is.

Last edited by TheRedComet; 08-19-2009 at 06:16 AM. Reason: spelling error
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08-19-2009 , 06:22 AM
if you dont shove the turn you have to call the river bet
you are committed and he will shove up with a weaker hand a very good amount of time.
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08-19-2009 , 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by mizztagoo
He floated me oop earlier with kq when I had ak on a 227 flop cc and cc turn folded to river bet.
so when you barrelled AK he called 3 streets, pre, flop and turn? Then showed the KQ? did you show the AK?

consider this for a minute
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08-19-2009 , 11:51 AM
theres no way you can fold here
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08-19-2009 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dereds
so when you barrelled AK he called 3 streets, pre, flop and turn? Then showed the KQ? did you show the AK?

consider this for a minute
He cc a flop and turn bet folded his hand face up and I mucked.
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08-19-2009 , 10:22 PM
I dont think hero can fold this obviously. I mean what did he call the raise with pre flop that hits that board? I mean I guess he could have a set or a straight or something but once he calls on the flop and turn and shoves river it seems to me he has an over-pair and thinks hes good.
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