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05-21-2010 , 12:52 PM

ozmosis313

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What do you think of pre in the small blind?
Is the call on the flop ok?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 150/300 Blinds (10 handed) - Party-Poker Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

MP3 (t5180)
CO (t5437)
Button (t8435)
Hero (SB) (t11490)
BB (t5000)
UTG (t5245)
UTG+1 (t2340)
UTG+2 (t4138)
MP1 (t9405)
MP2 (t1750)

Hero's M: 25.53

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9

, 9

UTG calls t300, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls t300, MP1 calls t300, 4 folds, Hero calls t150, BB checks

Flop: (t1050) 3

, 5

, 6

(5 players)
Hero checks, BB raises to t5000 (All-In), 3 folds, Hero calls t4700

Turn: (t10750) 10

(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t10750) 5

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t10750

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05-21-2010 , 12:57 PM

Dannykurttt

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pre is fine, Flop I leaning torwards a fold, U only invest 150 in Pot, And BB shove into a multiway pot (Although he is short) But Most time u are facing NFD or Set

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05-21-2010 , 12:58 PM

IwillSucceed

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I fold the flop

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05-21-2010 , 01:00 PM

ozmosis313

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my thinking was he is shoving any combo draw or top pair combo as well as two pair b/c he is short. And since i have one club I thought i would have decent equity against he range once it was folded to me.

wrong?

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05-21-2010 , 01:02 PM

Texas Chuck

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i dont mind the gamble i guess.

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05-21-2010 , 01:02 PM

Dannykurttt

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Mathmaticly you are wrong, we are not in favour against his range, not to mention the pot odds

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05-21-2010 , 01:05 PM

sunnydunerz

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iso pre

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05-21-2010 , 01:06 PM

Texas Chuck

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Originally Posted by Dannykurttt

Mathmaticly you are wrong, we are not in favour against his range, not to mention the pot odds

hence the word gamble sir

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05-21-2010 , 01:08 PM

Dannykurttt

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Originally Posted by sunnydunerz

iso pre

Super bad in my view

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05-21-2010 , 01:12 PM

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ozmosis313

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can someone show me the math range thing here, it would be appreciated.

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05-21-2010 , 01:14 PM

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ozmosis313

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i don't iso pre b/c at this level its hard to iso, my position sucks going 2-3 way with 99
anything but floping a set puts me in an awkward spot with bloated pot out of position.

any thoughts to donk pot bet on flop?

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05-21-2010 , 01:16 PM

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Dannykurttt

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Originally Posted by ozmosis313

I missed the table stack size at first, But now i think its either Shove on flop or c/f

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05-22-2010 , 03:24 AM

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ozmosis313

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ok the math isn't my strong suit but i just got a free trial for this pokerstove thing and I'm having trouble inputting the opponent range I want to calculate the odds.

the range would be all sets, straight draws, hands with ac in them, flopped straights, and flopped flushes, flopped two pairs, and any 6x hand.

can anyone help me out here?

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05-22-2010 , 01:28 PM

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ozmosis313

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bump.

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05-23-2010 , 03:37 AM

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ozmosis313

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05-23-2010 , 06:50 AM

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rotisseur

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isoing 99s multiway from sb gets u in many nasty situations. can see a shove pre though if eff. stacks was a bit smaller.

in this case i def just complete.

flop is really close imo . with JcJx/TcTx i´d def call . 99/88 are boarderline.

any reads?

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05-23-2010 , 09:04 AM

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ozmosis313

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yea i just got the download from pokerstove but I'm having real trouble inputting the ranges I want to. This slider thing is annoying. I would put him on shoving any hand with the ac in it for the nut flush draw. I would include all top pair 6x hands suited and not. All 4's.

followed by pair+straight draws, two pair, and sets/straights.

I think I would be at least 50/50 against that entire range since the only hands crushing me 2pr/sets i have a flush draw against anyways.

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05-23-2010 , 10:39 AM

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Derbos

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shove pre

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05-23-2010 , 12:38 PM

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ssnyc

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Originally Posted by Derbos

shove pre

this or 3 bet and shove flop...

cramming is sexy cause their limp range has a lot of hands we beat or are racing with that can either fold or call incorrectly

jam>3 bet call> flat

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05-23-2010 , 01:02 PM

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sunnydunerz

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ssync it wouldnt be a 3bet, and were cramming in nearly 40 bigs with 99, meh?

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05-23-2010 , 01:03 PM

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Derbos

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stacksizes, meh?

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05-23-2010 , 01:06 PM

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sunnydunerz

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ah good point dude. sorry fellas, yeah cramming pre is def the right answer

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05-23-2010 , 01:16 PM

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ssnyc

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Originally Posted by sunnydunerz

ssync it wouldnt be a 3bet, and were cramming in nearly 40 bigs with 99, meh?

my bad...value squeeze

and stacks are such and with so many limpers that cramming is fine vs 3 betting and taking a flop with such a bad SPR

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05-23-2010 , 03:15 PM

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Loretta8

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i would raise pre because most of the limpers are very short, if everyone had us covered i would like the limp

i'd lead the flop, as played would definitely call, although knowing the buy in of the tourney would be helpful (maybe i missed it)

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