i dont know what i was doing on the river, i figured hed fold a pair under and ace...

what else can i do here besides c/r the flop and get it in? which im not too fond of doing either.

obv river bet is terrible, i know, whats a better line? christ i hate beeing oop.

i shoulda payed attention to his turn betsize and just shoved....AHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh WHY WAS I WATCHING THAT CLIP OF MATUSOW SINGING ABOUT THE INTERNET BEING FOR PORN!

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: t5925
UTG: t15160
UTG+1: t30920
UTG+2: t10300
MP1: t4875
MP2: t6860
CO: t9350
BTN: t15900
Hero (SB): t6725

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with T T
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to t600, 4 folds, Hero calls t525, 1 fold

Flop: (t1350) 2 9 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets t900, Hero calls t900

Turn: (t3150) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets t1200, Hero calls t1200

River: (t5550) A (2 players)
Hero bets t4025 all in, UTG+2 calls t4025

Final Pot: t13600
UTG+2 shows 9s As (two pair, Aces and Nines)
Hero shows Th Ts (a pair of Tens)
UTG+2 wins t13600

lead flop...he raises you and you decide...often you fold the best hand because he thinks he is pushing for value...

aside from his opening that crap from EP villan played the post flop pretty well

i disagree, i think his turn bet is atrocious. what did i call on the flop with? plus the biggest idiot hand in poker just got there in JT.

His turn bet is terrible. I actually think your river shove is worse.

dude..has he played with you? Have you shown down your usual crap...have you been aggressive...why should he think the Q helped and he bet enough to give himself some fold room if you decided to wake up...

you would bet bet bet here too

i have actually been playing fairly tight so far and shown down very few hands. the table was super nitty and i couldnt get any chips early.

also, fairly certain i dont play this hand at all similar. i probably raise pre to about 425, bet the flop light 600 or so, check the turn, and call a decent river bet.

i rarely triple barrell with hands that arent the nuts, or straight bluffs.

well duh...without that I can only use my general reads...again..if you are villan I think you barrel the turn as long as he shows weakness...what hands worry you that wren't beating you anyway?

also not sure if you raise A 9 from there anyway so mooot

JT is so overplayed. i just cant forsee betting that turn with middle pair after ive shown strength and gotten called. i want to check the hand down unimproved and get to showdown cheaply, unless my hand improves.

it would be rare that id double barrell in position with a hand im not certain about, its either a bluff or a monster. i might even check kings/aces behind on this turn.

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I dont get it. I thought you were mainly loose and aggressive from what Ive seen you post.

It seems like you are disregarding your own advice by expecting someone in a $3 game to put you on something.

I play these like vbetvbetvbetvbet.

RR pf. lead flop, lead turn, c/f river if you didnt lose him already since most of his wide range now beats you.

Not sure what villain was thinking on the turn. Nothing other than "I gotta keep betting" probably.

infact. I used to do that exact same thing trying to make it look like a bet I want you to call because Im strong. Yeah ******ed.

Shove turn

I like the flat pre. Its tough to play TT postflop oop after youve rr pre. If he cbets alot im c/r flop otherwise im leading. With the c/r line im shoving any non ace turn, if he hits on the turn ul gg. The lead line im just valuebetting any non ace turn and river, would probably c/f on that river, youre beating v little. As for your line post, thats just friggin spew man.

If you're going flatcall pf, isnt it better to c/c all the way?

I think thats pretty reasonable but if you take that line Im not sure you can call the river.

A reasonable range for random villain here would be 77+ A8+ KQ ?

so you dont beat much when that A hits the river

Preflop is fine. I agree with ssnyc that leading the flop was the best line in that we put the pressure on him to raise call or fold, thereby giving him more chances to make a mistake, and narrowing his range.

As played, sorry areaman but your play after the flop was pretty bad imo. You really should have given up on the turn. Even if you still think we're ahead here, there's a good chance we're going to be facing a third barrel on the river.

As you said, it sucks being OOP, so we need to end the hand ASAP.

i know i played the hand band...im just wondering my other options.

i really dont know if leading is going to work, because i think im going to get raised so often by air that i have to make a decision for all my chips at that point anyways.

youre also going to get floated by ak and aq all the time and youll never know where youre at regardless.

yeas and no...you have a big stack...if you lead and put him to the test he may choose to float overs or not.

also if he does raise your flop lead (remember he thinks he has the nuts TPTK) you fold the best hand yes but cheaper than proceeding like a blind man for 3 streets OOP? If you choose to play the 1010 passively OOP you have to play it passively...seems like yout tried to have it both ways

anyways, thanks for all the responses. the wheels are turning.

You hate being OOP....I hate being OOP...we all do. That's why you need to play straight up in a situation like this. I'm definately leading this flop, and if we do check here and get raised you MUST come over the top. There are way too many scare cards that can come on the turn. We're you playing this for pot control or what?

As stated, his turn bet makes no sense, looks kinda scared and yes you should be check/pushing here. The biggest leak in all of online poker is NOT PAYING ATTENTION!!! Are you playing to win money or just for entertainment value?

mostly entertainment value. sometimes i try to win money.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFjHDnuyhiY

i couldnt help it, its funny.

easy blanks...we know you like aggression yada yada...

if we lead the flop and he raises you want to come over the top why?

UTG raises...big stack calls and bets into him and he can't have us beat why? (aside from knowing the results which is nice if you're a superuser but for the rest of us)...

also if we want to 4 bet the flop we are operating on the assumption that he does not have JJ-AA...in that case why did we not raise pre? Once again a case of wanting to have it both ways...

bet fold flop is fine cause the A 9 is the only hand that should come back over the top here...and it is because he feels he has the best hand...

why do you want to just guess on the flop and get all your chips in here?

ok, say i lead. he calls. turn comes a queen..now what?

b/f...you now have control...if he raises you after you bet two streets he has you beat or outplayed you...either is ok...can't win em all

oh and if you bet flop and turn you can c/f this river obviously

river, doesnt matter, occasionally ill play hands ****ed up and weird but its not because i dont know better. its because A) monkey tilt B) don't care, whyd i sign up for this ****ing tournament mode

thoughts on response river aside?

lead flop, lead/fold turn?

Keep betting, queen is a great card to double barrel. Again, if he raises, you throw it away.

Edit: I'm slow.

i hate getting bet off the best hand
but i know youre right....his position, his range, HIS RAISE SIZE, and the board, should make this an easy fold to me.