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10-19-2010 , 09:39 PM
Poker Stars $50+$5 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 9 players
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UTG+2: t3000 150 BBs
Hero (MP1): t2750 137.50 BBs
MP2: t3360 168 BBs
CO: t3120 156 BBs
BTN: t2910 145.50 BBs
SB: t2980 149 BBs
BB: t3000 150 BBs
UTG: t2880 144 BBs
UTG+1: t3000 150 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is MP1 with Q K
3 folds, Hero raises to t60, 4 folds, BB calls t40

Flop: (t130) K 8 Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t100, BB calls t100

Turn: (t330) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t260, BB calls t260

River: (t850) T (2 players)
BB bets t540, Hero folds

Final Pot: t850
BB wins t850
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10-19-2010 , 09:42 PM
Def call river, he doesn't just have flushes!
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10-19-2010 , 09:47 PM
I like the way you played it
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10-20-2010 , 04:56 AM
K3o or 87o and tons of 1 pairs turned into spaz bets or bluffs

Last edited by skater3598; 10-20-2010 at 05:03 AM. Reason: snap!
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10-20-2010 , 06:00 AM
sickening fold... I think I call because of your sizing on the flop and turn.
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10-20-2010 , 06:24 AM
Do u have any further reads on villain?

We can call here, but name the hands u beat? there arent a lot..
I just fold the river and type nh in the chat.. ez game
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10-20-2010 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CaliStyle
I like the way you played it
+1
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10-20-2010 , 12:17 PM
Im hardly ever folding this river either. Fish do stupid **** with lower 2 pairs.
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10-20-2010 , 07:43 PM
this may be closer than i thought initially...if villain ever blocks the riv w his 2pr combos, this has to be a call. if we assume 1st that hes calling wide (ie: all paint combos and any suited Ax and any SC's/sooted 1 gappers from 43 up.)

if so hes gonna have the following:

14 2 pr combos of KT(6);QT(6) and 86s(2)
9 combos of Axss
10 combos or SCss/1GAPss (43;53;54;64;65;75;76;97;J9;KJ)
and maybe 3 combos of a slowplayed 88

since we're getting ~2.5 to 1 on a call we only have to be good 28% of the time. so if he value bets all his spade combos(19) and blocks w 88(3) and only KT(6) we break even on a call since KT comprises ~27% of his combos that value bet/block the river. if he ever blocks w his other 2pr combos or turns JT ot QJ into a bluff then we profit on a call.

if we assume hes calling a tighter range (ie: less Ax combos and less SC/1gap and only suited paint) the # of combos goes down but the proportion/ratio (of spade combos to 2pr hands) should be close to the same.
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10-20-2010 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by erc007
this may be closer than i thought initially...if villain ever blocks the riv w his 2pr combos, this has to be a call. if we assume 1st that hes calling wide (ie: all paint combos and any suited Ax and any SC's/sooted 1 gappers from 43 up.)

if so hes gonna have the following:

14 2 pr combos of KT(6);QT(6) and 86s(2)
9 combos of Axss
10 combos or SCss/1GAPss (43;53;54;64;65;75;76;97;J9;KJ)
and maybe 3 combos of a slowplayed 88

since we're getting ~2.5 to 1 on a call we only have to be good 28% of the time. so if he value bets all his spade combos(19) and blocks w 88(3) and only KT(6) we break even on a call since KT comprises ~27% of his combos that value bet/block the river. if he ever blocks w his other 2pr combos or turns JT ot QJ into a bluff then we profit on a call.

if we assume hes calling a tighter range (ie: less Ax combos and less SC/1gap and only suited paint) the # of combos goes down but the proportion/ratio (of spade combos to 2pr hands) should be close to the same.
+1

Unless you have some type of read on this villian i agree.. I would doubt you have much in terms of reads tho based on the stack sizes and low blinds you probably hadnt played with him for more than15 minutes...

I dont hate a call here, as stated he could be turning his hand into a bluff, or blocking/value betting a worse 2 pair. With all those draws out there i doubt he ever slowplays a set like that. There are enough hands you can beat to justify it. Cant hate a fold here tho as he called 2 streets and led out on a made flush river in a hand where you showed a lot of strength the whole way.
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10-20-2010 , 08:21 PM
fold pre imo
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