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good post, matt

Nice post, I would just like to add that no matter how many tables someone plays the most important thing is to be constantly trying to improve your game. Unless you play $100s or higher and have a top ROI there will always be room for improvement.

Very good post! All of it is so true!

I am thinking a lot about this dilemma these days. I want to improve my game and every day I"m reviewing my hands in HEM and Wiz.. studying and trying to find leaks. Building bankroll is also important but not as near as improving.
With all my obligations in RL I simply cant spend more than 1 hour to play (+ 20-30 mins to study)... but I love this game so I"m not giving up despite lack of time..
So far, I"ve played >300 games (with 15% ROI which really dont mean anything on this sample), my dilemma is that I"m not sure weather to 3 table or 4 table (someone will find this funny but I"m proud on my improve from beginner days).
Calculating my profit gives me this result: with 4 tabling I can drop my ROI for about 3% in next 100 games and still make more $ (with rb) than on 3 tabling.
BUT, I still dont feel comfortable at 4 tables, I can handle them but there are spots where I dont exploit others weak play as much as I can, and according to that I will not maximize benefit from time spended to study (I mean, we can review hands and study for hours but that is un-exploitable if we dont recognize that spots in game.. hope you understood what I meant).

To summarize, I am glad that someone thinks that volume and profit is not primal, on other side improving and studying our games will give much more benefit and profit in future.

Is 8 table considered massive multi tabling?

Not really. 16+ imo. Matter of opinion. I can handle 21-22 but play alot better @ 16 so I stick to that lately. Rather have time to hover over everyone's stats for decisions than just blindly robotify. People like the sipster can do that cos they run so damn hot all their lives

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Wholeheartedly agree. The only people who really should be doing this are those who have peaked and don't give a crap about improving (lame) or those whose ability has moved beyond his bankroll (probably lame). If you have more than 300 buyins for your level and I know some of you do, Jesus, take a chance. If you don't do it now, when do you think you're going to be able to do it?

For most of you, your monthly life expenses will never be lower and your time available to play will never be higher than they are right now. Nobody should aspire to be me. That's what you do when you've essentially given up.

if people would take this advice to heart they would be such better players in the long run... and the profits would show it. i am bad as anyone though... so obviously easier said than done.

Another point that i think could be added:

instead of 20 tabling 3.4s or 6.5s or 16s it could be a LOT more beneficial to play only 4 or 6 6.5s, 16s, or 27s etc. still playing for lots of money, still getting as much rakeback or whatev, and getting to pay a LOT more attention and improve your game.

i 1 tabled my first 1k sngs lol, deffo helped and i know sparta to this day only like 6 tables or something and his one of the best (not sure if he still plays)

Really, or are you joking?

This is what I meant in prev post, improving and understanding the game have to be in front of profit..

Question is at how many tables we can play our A game?

yes really

I know for sure I played less than 4 for the first 2000 or so games. gg life, oh wait...

Thank you Sir.

u should post more often.

some top, top advice itt

nice one OP

I think this is a great article. I do hope you post more. I have started playing again about 1-2 months ago. I only play 2-3 at a time currently. It is definitely worth the wait to move up. I know in the 1-2 months I have improved tremendously. I currently have a 11% ROI after I had started out breaking even.

My exact reason for only playing 2-3 SNG's a time is so I can focus on reads and analyzing my own game. I think to move up and be a good player over the long term this is the best solution. I also think that some of the players do not analyze, study, and post enough to truly become good players. I am new around here but only because I didn't know what resources I was missing. I will be a constant on here for a long time. Always trying to improve. People have said that 11% is good at the $5 tables. I have the roll to move up but I am more focused on improving at the moment (I do plan on moving up within the next month tho). Great post.

I play 20 tables and I still write down hands I'm unsure about, then look them up later in WIZ, or sometimes post them here. It's not that hard. Just jot down the tourney number and the hand, takes 5 seconds.

if you're using hem there's a 'mark hands' function too. i usually go back and review marked hands. i didn't know about it for my first 1000 games and when i found out about it i cried with joy

It's absolutely possible. Agree with OP that if you play few enough tables to focus properly on every one and actually learn and improve instead of playing your same old robot game, you'll become a much better player. And a actually good player can certainly acheive a 7% ROI -- and maybe much higher -- at a mid stake like $30s.


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lol i read this thread while i was 16 tabling. oh the ironing

but yeah this is good advice, something that I should think about... I don't want my game to stagnate and wither and die while I bust my brain mass multitabling.

going to move up a level and play half the tables re. Tbini's post - (trying to squeeze in supernova before the year is out).

Great post, I just did this exact thing recently (although I only went from 10-15 tables down to 5) as I could tell I was not improving my play at all. I just did this last week and haven't put much volume in but I can already see the difference. I catch way more errors and can better analyze my bad plays, and the good plays I see others make. Great stuff post more!

Must be a young crowd if this little gem got no love. Nice throw back Sippin.

Wait...really? Why didn't I know about this? I've been jotting down tournament #s and hands for the past 8000 games =/

How do I mark them?

There is a script made by TTR:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/45...t-hand-845894/

Great tool, since I try it I cant imagine to play without it.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/45/software/script-mark-current-hand-845894/

If you dunno wtf AHK is search software forum, maybe faq on this one