$33r 20 players left 54 were paid.
I don't have too much experience in mtts so not sure whether this is just a cooler or I could have got away from it.
Villain is 21/17 16.7 3bet over 64 hands. Seems like a good player who could be 3 betting light. I only have 22 bbs and have near the top of my range so i 4 bet jam.
Standard or spazzy?


Poker Stars $30+$3 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t2000/t4000 Blinds + t500 - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP: t65127 M = 6.86
Hero (CO): t90129 M = 9.49
BTN: t122183 M = 12.86
SB: t68652 M = 7.23
BB: t255509 M = 26.90
UTG: t63794 M = 6.72
UTG+1: t38521 M = 4.05

Pre Flop: (t9500) Hero is CO with A J
3 folds, Hero raises to t9111, BTN raises to t24111, 2 folds, Hero raises to t89629 all in, BTN calls t65518

Flop: (t188758) 8 7 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t188758) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t188758) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

the paired board reduces your chances of winning the hand by making a flush by about 2-3%, and reduces your overall equity in the hand by an average of 5%

need to know how light villain is playing, if he has an overpair he has an advantage over you, so on a paired board like this i think c/r is better either way check flop

jesus.....

the money went in pre

Im folding AJs to a good sized 3bet. Even if villain is doing it light, the fact that he seems to be a decent player means its going to be incredibly hard to win a hand oop if we dont hit the board well.

position dosn't matter if you are all in

Im speaking as if we ended up seeing a flop against him and weren't all in. Obv this isnt going to happen in this situation but i just brought it up to give some emphasis to my reasoning's for folding AJ because of how horrible flatting would be.

uhh

uhh

Between folding or shoving, you fold because flatting is bad? Wtf?

Given villain's 3bet % I think shoving is ok.

Why would i ever flat here? Im either shoving or folding.


And the whole flatting thing is just something i brought up. I think you're just misreading my post.

oh my bad

thought the action occured post flop

why so many boring pre flop hands in this forum...who cares if you wanna gamble go for it AJs is a good hand

ugh, i'd have never touched this thread if i knew it was a pf hand go do some stove

Where did I say you would flat? I said that you said you fold, but my "wtf?" was because you added a completely irrelevant reason:

Why does the fact that flatting is horrible have anything to do with your decision here?

Without doing the maths id say it looks good.

Late position open, aggro villain on button who prob figures you can r/f with > 20bbs.

Id get it in here thinking I had decent enough equity versus his range that includes some sc's, etc.

getting it in here is perfectly fine in fact I'd go so far as to say not getting it in CO V Button is pretty bad

and people need to read the hand properly

OP,

listen to dave and dereds and ignore whatever the heck those other posters were trying to say.

your opinion would have been sorely missed.

Ok Cheers

What would the bottom of your getting it in range be in this spot?

we're pretty close to it ATs AJo is about the bottom KQs as well I think just because it runs kinda well and pairs 66/77+

Thanks for that. Seems like good advise.

think you should shove considerably tighter than people are suggesting itt. you opened just over 20bbs hes prob not 3b/fing much if at all actually think 3b/fing here is godawful, with aggro dynamics/history though ajs is still a shove imo although its really close

16.7 3 bet? Seems like an incredibly easy 4 bet jam. Just type in the chat: "nice cold deck sir..."

Your username and the site you normally play on pls

I think it can't be terrible because vs a wide 3b/call range AJs does ok. But I think because of the effective stacks and the low sample size its a spot where villain might not be 3bet bluffing as often as it seems

- Some people won't be 3b/folding 22bb stacks ever, so 0FE
- Over-reliance on HUD stats. Someone with a 16% 3bet only over 60 hands is not something you should weigh heavily in your decision. He's probably only had ~20 chances to 3bet, which means he's only made ~3 in total. It wouldn't be that crazy if he simply got a made hand 3 times

CO v Button 22bb's deep I think he can be value betting worse

I'm not expecting a fold.
I think at this stage of the tournament with this stack size good players will be 3 betting me light a ton. So I shove because he seems like a good player and I think I'm ahead of his range.
Folding AJs on the CO for 22bbs with big antes just seems bad in general.
Wouldn't open shoving be better than raise folding?

and I don't mean value betting worse in the strictest sense I mean raising those hands that are ahead of your opening range with the required equity against your shoving range that are behind your get it in range