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Late in <img  K - are we ever not shoving here? Late in <img  K - are we ever not shoving here?

03-22-2011 , 01:10 PM
Last 40 players. Readless on villain as new table.

Should we ever flat this raise and then play post flop? I feel like I should be ahead of a lot of his range.

Poker Stars $1.00+$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t60000/t120000 Blinds + t15000 - 8 players
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SB: t747404 M = 2.49
BB: t1130464 M = 3.77
UTG: t1882037 M = 6.27
UTG+1: t1245473 M = 4.15
MP1: t2163816 M = 7.21
Hero (MP2): t1329686 M = 4.43
CO: t561010 M = 1.87
BTN: t475167 M = 1.58

Pre Flop: (t300000) Hero is MP2 with K A
2 folds, MP1 raises to t310800, Hero raises to t1314686 all in, 4 folds, MP1 calls t1003886
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03-22-2011 , 02:14 PM
We are never flatting cuz we can't play post flop with our stacks. What if the board comes all low cards and he bets out, then we have to fold.
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03-22-2011 , 02:14 PM
we are never not shoving here
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03-22-2011 , 02:33 PM
if you know with a strong certainty youre ahead then shove without giving it a thought. Otherwise youre going to get put in anyway, look at his stack compared to yours.
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03-22-2011 , 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KingCa$ino
if you know with a strong certainty youre ahead then shove without giving it a thought. Otherwise youre going to get put in anyway, look at his stack compared to yours.
this sounds a lot like a thought.

Last edited by rmfan31; 03-22-2011 at 03:11 PM. Reason: actually not rly its AK were always ahead!
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03-22-2011 , 04:23 PM
Most def a shove.
With 11bb id be happy to hold AK here.
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03-22-2011 , 04:45 PM
<15 BB shove all day even into raisers especially if they're <15 BB too. You don't get much better spots than this.

At this point players are pretty much playing Ax, and any broadway which you have crushed.

Even against PP 22-QQ it's +EV for a flip because of the antes.

You're very very very rarely crushed against KK/AA so it's not worth worrying about. Like <2% here.

AA only 3 left so 3*2/2 = 3 total combos
KK only 3 left so 3*2/2 = 3 combos
AK is 3*3 = 9 combos
22-QQ is 4*3/2 = 6 combos * 11 hands = 66 combos
Ax is 3*4 or 12 combos * 11 = 132 combos
KT-KQ is 3*4 *3 = 36 combos
QT-QJ is 3*4 *2 = 24 combos
JT- 4*4 = 16 combos

289 combos total

Not even counting suited connectors which some people may play.

6 combos that crush = 6/289 = 2% hands that crush you.
9+66/289 = 26% that you are about even but with antes you're slightly +EV
208/289 = 72% combos in which you are crushing or are the favorite.

Shove all day man. Very high likelyhood (about 75%) you are significantly ahead (2:1, 2.5:1, 3:1), and if can't win when you're +EV especially at those amount of BB you're not gonna win the tourney anyway.
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03-22-2011 , 04:56 PM
When your M is below 6 or 7, your only move should be to go all-in. You got to push here with big slick.
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03-22-2011 , 05:12 PM
nh ul etc
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03-22-2011 , 06:53 PM
nEvEr CaLl HeRe AlWaYs ShOvE!

Its never a bad thing to win a 600k+ pot with A high

edit: Half ur stack is in the pot before u put a dime in.
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