You said theres no hand we beat that calls us and thats just the biggest bs.

*bumb*

I don't know the Villain, but there's at best a 10% chance he bluffed raised us with busted str8 and bottom pair

Then again, why would he take such a complex, sophisticated line against us when we're an Unknown and might not be able to understand the story his bets are telling us?

c/c River because we're fried turd here.

Pretty sure river is a call vs almost anybody and closer to a shove than a fold.

Some reads or info about villian would make it a lot easier.

preflop is marginal, although not terrible. flop is definitely a bet, people saying c/c the flop are ******ed.
turn i'm probably c/c as its a pretty good card for him to bluff, but as played on the turn the river is a pretty easy c/c imo. after leading i don't think you can really ever fold to his raise.

Basically this. Also, we're calling 1,895 to win 6,705, so we're getting 3.5:1.

I don't really see raising here, but we do only have 1,500 chips left sooo...

One thing I would like to add is that only one of the underlying statements can be true:

(1) The guy has Tx, figures we are a real donk, betting three streets with an overpair and then calling his raise on the river!!!!
(2) The guy sees us as a decent player, so that we are probably not betting three streets with an overpair, (also knowing his image), but have at least trips OTR or are FOS, so he shouldn't bluffraise river, because what are we laying down?

I think 1 is very unlikely and 2 is very likely so that the conclusion is that although he might have played his hand somewhat weird if he has 55/T9/99/67, but not that weird if he has 88/T8/QJ, that he has the goods here. If he really turned his hand into a bluff I think the most likely hand is JJ (makes the most sense) being somewhat frustrated that he didn't hit his straight OTR and so he raised in the hope that you lay down an overpair, Tx (which aren't a big part of your range).

I think that if villain doesn't show up with the goods here that he isn't that good of a player, because he misinterpreted your skills and bets completely.

Bye the way, I would like to stress again that betting the river is bad, check-call rulezzz.

It just occurred to me that Villain has T9

Th7h bump .

108 maybe A10 imo :-x

results!!!

LOL, sorry that I completely forgot about this thread guys. I ended up folding in this hand.

Later on I asked him in the chat if he had QJ, or 99 for that matter. He said 'Yeah, one of those' ...

I played a similar hand at a 400NL 6m table, and decided to take a different route on the river..(I c/c rather than b/f) I know ring games are different than tournaments, but I cant see Johan raising the river with anything but 99 or QJ.

Full Tilt Poker Game #15056906144: Table Ben Or (6 max) - $2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:52:01 ET - 2009/10/01
Seat 1: sitsik2008 ($490.10)
Seat 2: NapalmOma ($334.70)
Seat 3: smizmiatch ($435.10)
Seat 4: Stryker2k ($64)
Seat 5: Larghetto0 ($406)
Seat 6: pfc_ivan ($454.80)
Stryker2k posts the small blind of $2
Larghetto0 has 5 seconds left to act
Larghetto0 has timed out
Larghetto0 stands up
pfc_ivan posts the big blind of $4
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pfc_ivan [9c Tc]
sitsik2008 raises to $10
smizmiatch calls $10
Stryker2k folds
pfc_ivan calls $6
*** FLOP *** [8s 5h Td]
pfc_ivan bets $24
sitsik2008 calls $24
smizmiatch folds
*** TURN *** [8s 5h Td] [6c]
pfc_ivan bets $42
sitsik2008 calls $42
*** RIVER *** [8s 5h Td 6c] [Th]
pfc_ivan checks
sitsik2008 bets $119
pfc_ivan calls $119
*** SHOW DOWN ***
sitsik2008 shows [Ac Ts] three of a kind, Tens
pfc_ivan mucks
sitsik2008 wins the pot ($399) with three of a kind, Tens


Sorry guys, converter not working for some reason.

Guess im gonna go ahead and be the first to say I fold the river and feel pretty good about it.