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04-03-2008 , 01:23 PM

unrealzeal

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This is a 1,500 FPP satellite for T$/215. This is an extremely passive table, and the light raise was enough to take the blinds down 4 times in the last two orbits, and a small c-bet took down the 5th.

Villian is the only other aggressive player at the table, and I'm reading this as a resteal.

Remember that it's winner take all.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP (t1480)
Hero (t2070)
Button (t1755)
SB (t2070)
BB (t3540)
UTG (t2585)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K

, K

.
2 folds, Hero raises to t125, Button raises to t300, 2 folds, [color=#CC3333]Hero ??

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04-03-2008 , 01:24 PM

TruFloridaGator

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Shove and only shove

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04-03-2008 , 01:29 PM

Buckk Dich

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This is a pretty clear shove imo, he's playing back at you preflop and you have a monster...ship it.

I'd prefer to not get fancy with playing this hand postflop.

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04-03-2008 , 01:32 PM

1fog

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And fpp stt? I just call, then make a weak flop bet to get a raise to push allin over. If he suks out with 8-10, so it goes.

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04-03-2008 , 01:39 PM

sippin_criss

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so u think its only a resteal, and he cant have a good hand? if thats the case call and c/r most flops. otherwise just stick it in and pwn his AJ.

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04-03-2008 , 02:22 PM

unrealzeal

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Originally Posted by 1fog

And fpp stt? I just call, then make a weak flop bet to get a raise to push allin over. If he suks out with 8-10, so it goes.

I thought of this line. I didn't want him to fold and a 3bet to 600 turns my cards face up. He is definitely c-betting any flop.

In the end I opted to shove, hoping he would call with Ax, pp, which I was pretty certain he didn't have. He folded.

Later in the tourney I picked up the exact same hand - raised 3X this time, made a weak flop bet on a J-rag-rag flop as you just suggested, and villian would have stacked me with J6 if he didn't hit the 6 on river.

Didn't matter though, we both made it to HU and chopped.

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04-03-2008 , 03:11 PM

venice10

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Originally Posted by unrealzeal

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Originally Posted by unrealzeal

Didn't matter though, we both made it to HU and chopped.

A chop for a satellite with a single seat prize?

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04-03-2008 , 04:55 PM

spade561

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shove. calling to crai on the flop is an mtt play. we have more to lose by trapping than to gain.

lol @ chopping an fpp donkastt?

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04-03-2008 , 07:28 PM

unrealzeal

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Originally Posted by venice10

A chop for a satellite with a single seat prize?

Yup. Poker Stars allows it. We were going to chop three ways but the other guy didn't want to because he was the chip leader - then he ended up stacking off.

Pretty cool huh?

I'm thinking about this hand:

Call>=Shove>RR.

That look right to you guys?

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04-03-2008 , 08:13 PM

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Little John

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generally when you get repopped like this, villian will call a shove.

so i just shove pre. calling can be a disaster because it lets get him get away postflop when you could have easily stacked him...

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04-03-2008 , 08:48 PM

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bones

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In a sat calling and getting cute is so ridiculously bad. Folding it might be more profitable than calling and playing a flop.

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04-03-2008 , 08:52 PM

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sence25

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Originally Posted by bones

In a sat calling and getting cute is so ridiculously bad. Folding it might be more profitable than calling and playing a flop.

-in a sat

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04-03-2008 , 09:04 PM

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bones

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Oops, misread the structure. Shoving is still optimal.

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04-03-2008 , 09:34 PM

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unrealzeal

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Originally Posted by bones

Oops, misread the structure. Shoving is still optimal.

Yeah I'm beginning to agree with this. I made the right play because I hadn't seen how he handles c-bets, since no one was defending.

This hand, however, illustrates why the call-crai line might have worked:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero (t3845)
BB (t2340)
UTG (t795)
MP (t3335)
Button (t3185)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K

, K

.
3 folds, Hero raises to t300, BB calls t150.

Flop: (t600) 2

, J

, 3

(2 players)
Hero bets t300, BB raises to t2040, Hero calls t1740.

Turn: (t4680) 6

(2 players)

River: (t4680) 4

(2 players)

Final Pot: t4680

He had J6.

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04-03-2008 , 09:38 PM

#15

bones

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These 2 hands aren't similar at all.

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04-03-2008 , 09:41 PM

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unrealzeal

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Originally Posted by bones

These 2 hands aren't similar at all.

I know, it just suggests he might have donked off. Still agree with shove tho.

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04-03-2008 , 09:47 PM

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DetroitHustle

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lol @ two different hands. what's going on here?

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04-03-2008 , 09:48 PM

#18

sence25

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dunno.wanna get hiiiigh?

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04-03-2008 , 09:51 PM

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DetroitHustle

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meh , i only like hard drugs.

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04-03-2008 , 09:58 PM

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spade561

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lol thread

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04-03-2008 , 10:19 PM

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Little John

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Originally Posted by unrealzeal

I know, it just suggests he might have donked off. Still agree with shove tho.

i think this example better shows how he might donk off

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 (t1295)
Hero (t2655)
CO (t1195)
Button (t1965)
SB (t1855)
BB (t865)
UTG (t1170)
UTG+1 (t2500)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9

, A

.
UTG raises to t450, 7 folds.

Final Pot: t375

and yes, i did mean this hand

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04-04-2008 , 12:33 AM

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niwatori

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pretty easy shove. If he has rockets then you pay him off. If not then ur in damn good position.

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04-04-2008 , 12:48 PM

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JTP-HS

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QUICK DECISION!

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