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KK b/f A ott line check KK b/f A ott line check

07-08-2015 , 01:54 PM
Merge - $0+$0|<> NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 15,515
UTG: 9,166 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 21.74, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 48)
UTG+1: 16,360 (VPIP: 23.83, PFR: 17.28, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 193)
UTG+2: 25,780 (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 34)
MP: 3,000 (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 5.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
MP+1: 9,763 (VPIP: 24.62, PFR: 4.69, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 65)
CO: 20,242 (VPIP: 43.63, PFR: 5.21, 3Bet Preflop: 1.49, Hands: 208)
BTN: 22,960 (VPIP: 19.23, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)

8 players post ante of 60, Hero posts BB 600

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,080) Hero has K K

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 600, fold, Hero raises to 1,440, CO calls 840

Flop: (3,360, 2 players) 8 4 5
Hero bets 1,680, CO calls 1,680

Turn: (6,720, 2 players) A
Hero bets 3,360, CO raises to 17,062 and is all-in, fold

Villain is a passive whale. Small sizing pre bc he would limp SB and then fold to a 2.75x raise. b/f turn is obviously kind of lol but do you think it's fine if you have the read that he doesn't gii w/o made hands?
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07-08-2015 , 07:11 PM
nh vs a passive whale. i'd prob bet a little bigger otf vs this type of player since they don't know what balancing means and you want to get max value vs his one pair hands and make him make mistakes with draws
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07-08-2015 , 07:59 PM
I think folding at this point is fine because vill is sooooo passive. A guy that 3bet 1% preflop is going to be bluffing us on the turn.

Aside from that, I wouldn't hate pot-controlling OTT. We don't have to be overly worried about "giving a free card" because so many of vill's flush draws (AXhh) just jumped ahead anyway.
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07-08-2015 , 10:09 PM
More pre!
b/f turn is optimal
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07-09-2015 , 12:29 AM
Yeah more pre for sure.

Typically check induce ott but versus this dolt sure bet fold.
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07-09-2015 , 03:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SetSetter
I think folding at this point is fine because vill is sooooo passive. A guy that 3bet 1% preflop is going to be bluffing us on the turn.

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Meant to say that a guy 3betinng 1% is NOT going to be bluffing hardly ever in a spot like this
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07-10-2015 , 12:48 PM
NH prob AQs ,AJs even AK even though you have blockers,,
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