2.20+r 500cap, about 300 players left. V new to table so no reads (3rd hand)

PokerStars - $2+$0.20|250/500 Ante 60 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 11,608 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 7)
SB: 13,265 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
BB: 20,963 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
UTG: 35,522 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
Hero (UTG+1): 33,874
MP: 2,842 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
MP+1: 3,905 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
CO: 9,285 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)

8 players post ante of 60, SB posts SB 250, BB posts BB 500

Pre Flop: (pot: 1,230) Hero has J K

UTG raises to 1,000, Hero folds


Anyone ever calling here? Fairly deep (in terms of these tournies) vs another 'deepstack' at the table I would expect this to be a bad spot to play a hand like this, although it looks pretty it is a massive RIO hand.

Anyone ever play this here?

Nah. I would play it from BU or maybe CO. And BB obv.

Edit: Nice chipstack u got at the moment if this is 8:45 ET tourney. I am playing the same one

Thanks, been running redhot! sets vs Aces, big pairs > not quite as big pairs etc etc. Whats ur SN?


I'm trying to fine tune pf game as I feel I have opened up my range online a bit too much due to playing live mostly.

Live, where I play, this is a standard call/open-raise and you can expect to be crushing openers/callers rangers most of the time. K7-KT and the like get limped a lot, although I suppose not raised from UTG.

Busted AQ vs AA so not playing this anymore.

Busted too Massive stack sat to my left made life hell for me, tightened up and blinded off about 40 from the bubble

position sucks.
might flat if we had more reads or in late position or blinds.

yeah same here might flat if we had more reads , I don't like calling this from the blinds even so we are getting good odds, we'll be playing the hand OOP , which sucks and even if we hit a hand like tp , we could be behind for most part. If you however feel that you can outplay V post flop then you can call or if it's multi way.

I am never folding this in the blinds for a min raise this deep and with antes even if V showed me aces before I made my decision
we can proceed cautiously if we hit just one pair even oop. we can let go this otf or ott if we just have one pair hand and V shows lot of strength.

calling with KJs against ALL players especially from the SB will be a mistake! even so your getting good odds.

if the flop came K 8 2 , and you have 30bb you'll have a hard time folding imo lol. you're prolly calling 2 streets with it at least , depending on the reads you have on V.

if stacks are deeper then yeah , but when stack's are shallow in the 30-40bb range you'll have more of a hard time getting away from your hand.

as u know playing OOP it's diffcult to know where your at postflop as u have less info , but if you really are good at hand reading and you have good postflop ability , then you can call and re-eve valuate. As a general rule of thumb , folding would be better.

This is almost 70bb deep...

Is anyone 3betting light here from BTN or CO?

not versus UTG open, it would be terrible without some read that UTG has zero concept of postion, and relative hand strength.

Once I know I have position there's no value in raising.

Don't be flatting hands like KJs , it has good flopping value , I'd rather 3-bet a hand like 45s.

There's will be times were you can re-raise an early position raiser if you think they are playing a wide range of hands though and this can be done from any position not only from the button. Plus it'll look less likely as a re-steal , and player's will be less unlikely to be play back at you (especially if you have history with your opponent) Be warned though , if u have a lot of re shove stacks on the blinds you may have to call since you'll be getting good odds once you have 3-bet.

Yeah , I meant generally.