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kind of a dumb spot that had me thinking about calling ranges/how far behind i really am here

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02-16-2010 , 02:36 PM

TurnUpTheSun

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can i ever call here? just curious about it, i know this may be a bad post, but it seemed interesting at the time...i was like hmmm i wonder if this is ever a profitable call based on how wide hes shoving plus whats in the pot etc etc...

Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t300/t600 Blinds + t70 - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP1: t7535 M = 5.16
MP2: t35697 M = 24.45
CO: t2390 M = 1.64
BTN: t10100 M = 6.92
SB: t10350 M = 7.09
Hero (BB): t17679 M = 12.11
UTG: t3958 M = 2.71
UTG+1: t19403 M = 13.29

Pre Flop: (t1460) Hero is BB with 3

4 folds, CO raises to t2320 all in, 3 folds

Final Pot: t2060
CO wins t2060

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02-16-2010 , 02:38 PM

MountainBum

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Theres 3780 in the pot and its 1720 to you? Im calling atc for sure.

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02-16-2010 , 02:40 PM

brad2002tj

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1720/5500 = 31% = call atc

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02-16-2010 , 02:41 PM

JoeyJoJo Shabadu

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ATC.

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02-16-2010 , 02:41 PM

MountainBum

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Originally Posted by brad2002tj

1720/5500 = 31% = call atc

maf......so i am wrong right?

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02-16-2010 , 02:43 PM

brad2002tj

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Originally Posted by MountainBum

maf......so i am wrong right?

You are right, you just have to add the call into the total pot to figure the equity you need to call.

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02-16-2010 , 02:54 PM

TurnUpTheSun

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ok, im dumb and cant do math correctly (need to dl a program ffs).
glad i didnt put my math itt lol thread can be locked, unless someone argues otherwise.
edit: its also a huge leak of mine, not knowing when to call atc. how do you work with programs to help with that?

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02-16-2010 , 03:05 PM

brad2002tj

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My general rule of thumb is to call atc when getting 2 to 1 or better. Of course this needs to be refined a bit in close decisions but it is just a rule of thumb. The easiest way to figure this out is if the pot is 2x the amount of the call or greater, then call atc. In this example the pot is 3780 when it gets to you and the call is 1720, so it fits the bill.

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