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02-08-2010 , 08:28 PM

mancougar

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Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 884

JJ Well Played? I shoved like 4 hands ago with AQ after he raised and he folded so I just called.
Full Tilt Poker $2 + $0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t80/t160 Blinds - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: t6050 M = 25.21
CO: t2955 M = 12.31
BTN: t5175 M = 21.56
SB: t8415 M = 35.06
Hero (BB): t2585 M = 10.77

Pre Flop: (t240) Hero is BB with J

UTG raises to t480, 3 folds, Hero calls t320

Flop: (t1040) 7

(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: (t1040) 7

(2 players)
Hero bets t800, UTG calls t800

River: (t2640) A

(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

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02-08-2010 , 08:38 PM

NSeverson

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 808

must barrel the flop for 700-800, you can't ask for a much better flop with JJ.

then fire the turn as well

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02-08-2010 , 08:40 PM

mancougar

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Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 884

was going for check/raise but he didn't act aggressively on flop

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02-08-2010 , 08:42 PM

NSeverson

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Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 808

meh, i am not trying to get fancy here. just lead out. the worse that can happen is he folds and you still win

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02-08-2010 , 08:54 PM

JumpMaster

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Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 93

This is not a board that many people will cbet because it is really wet yet does not hit their range at all. Lead out and hope he will call of one street w/ AK or something similar.

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02-08-2010 , 09:00 PM

mechajesusarmy

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 547

Unless villain is known as a auto cbet moron, do not attempt to cr the flop. You give up way too much equity by trying to
build the pot. JJ is not so strong here that we are afraid of our donkbet making him fold... We are happy to take down his pf raise with the jacks.

Don't know if it's good to not 3bet just because you did it a few hands earlier... But since it's only JJ it seems acceptable

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02-08-2010 , 09:48 PM

hitme1tim3

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Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,050

shove pre flop, i wouldnt be flatting with this stack with anything less than AA,KK IMO

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02-08-2010 , 10:38 PM

hyde

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Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,664

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Originally Posted by hitme1tim3

shove pre flop, i wouldnt be flatting with this stack with anything less than AA,KK IMO

this

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02-09-2010 , 12:06 AM

mechajesusarmy

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Originally Posted by hitme1tim3

shove pre flop, i wouldnt be flatting with this stack with anything less than AA,KK IMO

You really think this is necessary at 16bbs, no antes? Certainly it's a good play, but it's the only acceptable play?

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02-09-2010 , 12:11 AM

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bevakad

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Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 36

I will shove this preflop. Random $2 players on FTP will snap you with like A4 and stuff.

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02-09-2010 , 12:44 AM

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mullen

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Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 17,554

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Originally Posted by mechajesusarmy

You really think this is necessary at 16bbs, no antes? Certainly it's a good play, but it's the only acceptable play?

not shoving is flat-out bad and lighting $ on fire, especially since OP probably called with the intention on folding any flop with an overcard. obviously calling is better than folding, but shoving>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>calling ainec. also OP your logic for calling because you just shoved a few hands ago is backwards because he'll think you're a shovemonkey and call you lighter, so shove

the shove pre is for value, we get called by a ton worse and it's dumb to try and play this pot oop with such a low SPR anyway.

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