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07-06-2009 , 10:47 PM

killer_kill

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Full Tilt Poker Daily Dollar No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds + t50 - 9 players
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UTG: t20825 M = 19.83
Hero (UTG+1): t9424 M = 8.98
UTG+2: t5210 M = 4.96
MP1: t12881 M = 12.27
MP2: t10085 M = 9.60
CO: t9085 M = 8.65
BTN: t4035 M = 3.84
SB: t5520 M = 5.26
BB: t4373 M = 4.16

Pre Flop: (t1050) Hero is UTG+1 with J

1 fold, Hero raises to t1169, 2 folds, MP2 raises to t10035 all in, 4 folds

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07-06-2009 , 10:48 PM

pavlo1998

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Open shove, as played snap call

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07-06-2009 , 10:50 PM

lilOUmikey

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high five monitor call, don't shove, raise/call is good here

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07-06-2009 , 11:37 PM

ssnyc

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[ ] an overshove
[X] call

open shoving is really bad here...raise call is good

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07-06-2009 , 11:44 PM

JohnFR

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slightly smaller open, yaycall, I think open shoving is pretty bad, it doesn't merge our range at all, if you have 6k chips open jam is good, but with 9k def. raise/call here.

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07-06-2009 , 11:48 PM

Willyoman

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Originally Posted by ssnyc

[ ] an overshove
[X] call

open shoving is really bad here...raise call is good

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Originally Posted by JohnFR

slightly smaller open, yaycall, I think open shoving is pretty bad, it doesn't merge our range at all, if you have 6k chips open jam is good, but with 9k def. raise/call here.

I think this is all spot on.

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07-07-2009 , 12:37 AM

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07-07-2009 , 12:45 AM

Foks

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I'm very happy to raise/call w/ JJ here with only 20-25BB behind. Lower your PF raise a bit to like t950-t1000, and don't forget to call next time.

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07-07-2009 , 02:00 AM

killer_kill

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Originally Posted by pavlo1998

Open shove, as played snap call

This def isn't ideal and wasn't really asking if I should shove, we obv have way too many chips for that.

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Originally Posted by Foks

I'm very happy to raise/call w/ JJ here with only 20-25BB behind. Lower your PF raise a bit to like t950-t1000, and don't forget to call next time.

I never said I folded, there were 4 folds to me. I ended up calling and villain's QQ held. I was pretty sure it was the right call in the long run just wasn't sure since this time he had one of few hands that beat me.

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