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JJ early in a FTP non turbo 45 man JJ early in a FTP non turbo 45 man

03-12-2011 , 02:08 AM
Villan is 9/4 over 23 hands never 3 bet yet

Is this horrible?

Full Tilt Poker No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20.00/t40.00 Blinds - 8 players
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Hero (BB): t2835.00 70.88 BBs
UTG: t1920.00 48 BBs
UTG+1: t1470.00 36.75 BBs
MP1: t1740.00 43.50 BBs
MP2: t1455.00 36.38 BBs
CO: t1410.00 35.25 BBs
BTN: t1305.00 32.62 BBs
SB: t1365.00 34.12 BBs

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BB with J J
UTG calls t40, 1 fold, MP1 calls t40, MP2 raises to t200, 3 folds, Hero raises to t2835, 2 folds, MP2 calls t1255 all in

Flop: (t3010) 2 8 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t3010) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t3010) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)
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03-12-2011 , 02:10 AM
3b/c instead
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03-12-2011 , 02:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sunnydunerz
3b/c instead
with villans size u really want to call off like 1k with JJ?
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03-12-2011 , 06:37 AM
JJ is just to good to fold there, you'll see AK often and TT should be well within his range too. He's short enough to make it profitable to get in against him. And yeah 3b/c. Your sample is too small to consider folding.
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03-12-2011 , 07:01 AM
Folding seems good.
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03-12-2011 , 07:07 AM
Fold, 3b/c, and flat are all fine.

Not sure which one I like best, though. Probably flat.
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03-12-2011 , 07:09 AM
Meh, on second thought flatting is kinda ass'y.

Probably fold and tell noone...
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03-12-2011 , 07:26 AM
What is the buyin?
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03-12-2011 , 07:32 AM
oh, yea, ^ that.
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03-12-2011 , 08:34 AM
Lol at folding. 45 mans are Mtt's now?
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03-12-2011 , 08:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cicakman
Lol at folding. 45 mans are Mtt's now?
Do you flat/3betcall/shove? Why?

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03-12-2011 , 09:42 AM
I guess buy in matters but flatting is terrible. Were still ahead of his range so 3b/c seems better than shove to me cause we already have a double stack
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03-12-2011 , 09:47 AM
If he'd 3bet I might fold but he just iso'd some limpers, definitely 3b/c or shove, doesn't really matter which.
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03-12-2011 , 09:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cicakman
Lol at folding. 45 mans are Mtt's now?
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03-12-2011 , 02:35 PM
The buy in is $11

I like shoving here because I just hate to 3 bet and then call his whole stack with JJ

But I guess 3bet call is reasonable too

Not too sure maybe 3 bet fold
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03-12-2011 , 03:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stoaf88
The buy in is $11

I like shoving here because I just hate to 3 bet and then call his whole stack with JJ

But I guess 3bet call is reasonable too

Not too sure maybe 3 bet fold
best post ever
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03-12-2011 , 04:33 PM
Lol yea 3b/f is def the best option
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03-12-2011 , 04:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stoaf88
The buy in is $11

I like shoving here because I just hate to 3 bet and then call his whole stack with JJ

But I guess 3bet call is reasonable too

Not too sure maybe 3 bet fold
WTF ?
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03-12-2011 , 06:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Puzo
WTF ?
HAHAHA

Guess I am confused but I am now thinking 3bet fold haha
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03-12-2011 , 07:21 PM
3BET FOLD IS TERRIBLE. ITS THE WORST OF ALL OPTIONS. STOP BEING DUMB OR LEVELING.
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03-12-2011 , 07:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cicakman
3BET FOLD IS TERRIBLE. ITS THE WORST OF ALL OPTIONS. STOP BEING DUMB OR LEVELING.
Then what do u suggest 3 bet call?

I dont like that option too much
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03-12-2011 , 07:32 PM
then . but what reasons do you not like 3b/c? or shove? stoaf only
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03-12-2011 , 07:39 PM
Lets say I 3 bet to like 550 or 600.

Now if he pushes I kinda have to call but this guy is real tight and it is kind of like o man i guess i gotta call right?

If I just take the initiative and shove like I did it takes the decision making out of the equation.
Plus it puts quaetions in his head.
With his stack size and nittyness this is a real tough spot IMO.

OBV i was hoping to shove and for him to fold but he called and showed up with KK.

If i call his shove after 3betting it seems like kinda a bad play to me but it is soooo borderline.

Thats why i posted this hand.

Any thoughts woud be appreciated.
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03-12-2011 , 07:43 PM
if he had 3b this is a trivial fold in the 45s on FTP. However as Stevepa pointed out since he is isoing limpers Im 3b/c here.
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03-12-2011 , 07:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texas Chuck
if he had 3b this is a trivial fold in the 45s on FTP. However as Stevepa pointed out since he is isoing limpers Im 3b/c here.
I guess this is the best option of 3 bad options.
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