JJ early in a FTP non turbo 45 man - MTT Poker Strategy - Multi Table Tournament Poker Forum

Two Plus Two Forums Poker Strategy No Limit Tournaments

JJ early in a FTP non turbo 45 man

Post Reply Subscribe

...

Page 1 of 2

1 2

Page 1 of 2

1 2

03-12-2011 , 02:08 AM

stoaf88

centurion

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 188

Villan is 9/4 over 23 hands never 3 bet yet

Is this horrible?

Full Tilt Poker No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20.00/t40.00 Blinds - 8 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): t2835.00 70.88 BBs
UTG: t1920.00 48 BBs
UTG+1: t1470.00 36.75 BBs
MP1: t1740.00 43.50 BBs
MP2: t1455.00 36.38 BBs
CO: t1410.00 35.25 BBs
BTN: t1305.00 32.62 BBs
SB: t1365.00 34.12 BBs

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BB with J

UTG calls t40, 1 fold, MP1 calls t40, MP2 raises to t200, 3 folds, Hero raises to t2835, 2 folds, MP2 calls t1255 all in

Flop: (t3010) 2

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t3010) Q

(2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t3010) 5

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Quote

03-12-2011 , 02:10 AM

sunnydunerz

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 6,319

3b/c instead

Quote

03-12-2011 , 02:12 AM

stoaf88

centurion

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 188

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunnydunerz

3b/c instead

with villans size u really want to call off like 1k with JJ?

Quote

03-12-2011 , 06:37 AM

mashxx

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 7,840

JJ is just to good to fold there, you'll see AK often and TT should be well within his range too. He's short enough to make it profitable to get in against him. And yeah 3b/c. Your sample is too small to consider folding.

Quote

03-12-2011 , 07:01 AM

CiB

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 628

Folding seems good.

Quote

03-12-2011 , 07:07 AM

rmthawk64

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 15,644

Fold, 3b/c, and flat are all fine.

Not sure which one I like best, though. Probably flat.

Quote

03-12-2011 , 07:09 AM

rmthawk64

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 15,644

Meh, on second thought flatting is kinda ass'y.

Probably fold and tell noone...

Quote

03-12-2011 , 07:26 AM

CiB

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 628

What is the buyin?

Quote

03-12-2011 , 07:32 AM

rmthawk64

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 15,644

oh, yea, ^ that.

Quote

03-12-2011 , 08:34 AM

#10

cicakman

banned

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 9,229

Lol at folding. 45 mans are Mtt's now?

Quote

03-12-2011 , 08:51 AM

#11

CiB

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 628

Quote:

Originally Posted by cicakman

Lol at folding. 45 mans are Mtt's now?

Do you flat/3betcall/shove? Why?

Quote

03-12-2011 , 09:42 AM

#12

cicakman

banned

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 9,229

I guess buy in matters but flatting is terrible. Were still ahead of his range so 3b/c seems better than shove to me cause we already have a double stack

Quote

03-12-2011 , 09:47 AM

#13

stevepa

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,812

If he'd 3bet I might fold but he just iso'd some limpers, definitely 3b/c or shove, doesn't really matter which.

Quote

03-12-2011 , 09:58 AM

#14

Bernabus

banned

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,260

Quote:

Originally Posted by cicakman

Lol at folding. 45 mans are Mtt's now?

Quote

03-12-2011 , 02:35 PM

#15

stoaf88

centurion

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 188

The buy in is $11

I like shoving here because I just hate to 3 bet and then call his whole stack with JJ

But I guess 3bet call is reasonable too

Not too sure maybe 3 bet fold

Quote

03-12-2011 , 03:42 PM

#16

mashxx

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 7,840

Quote:

Originally Posted by stoaf88

The buy in is $11

I like shoving here because I just hate to 3 bet and then call his whole stack with JJ

But I guess 3bet call is reasonable too

Not too sure maybe 3 bet fold

best post ever

Quote

03-12-2011 , 04:33 PM

#17

cicakman

banned

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 9,229

Lol yea 3b/f is def the best option

Quote

03-12-2011 , 04:57 PM

#18

Puzo

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,657

Quote:

Originally Posted by stoaf88

The buy in is $11

I like shoving here because I just hate to 3 bet and then call his whole stack with JJ

But I guess 3bet call is reasonable too

Not too sure maybe 3 bet fold

WTF ?

Quote

03-12-2011 , 06:14 PM

#19

stoaf88

centurion

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 188

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puzo

WTF ?

HAHAHA

Guess I am confused but I am now thinking 3bet fold haha

Quote

03-12-2011 , 07:21 PM

#20

cicakman

banned

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 9,229

3BET FOLD IS TERRIBLE. ITS THE WORST OF ALL OPTIONS. STOP BEING DUMB OR LEVELING.

Quote

03-12-2011 , 07:28 PM

#21

stoaf88

centurion

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 188

Quote:

Originally Posted by cicakman

3BET FOLD IS TERRIBLE. ITS THE WORST OF ALL OPTIONS. STOP BEING DUMB OR LEVELING.

Then what do u suggest 3 bet call?

I dont like that option too much

Quote

03-12-2011 , 07:32 PM

#22

cicakman

banned

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 9,229

then . but what reasons do you not like 3b/c? or shove? stoaf only

Quote

03-12-2011 , 07:39 PM

#23

stoaf88

centurion

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 188

Lets say I 3 bet to like 550 or 600.

Now if he pushes I kinda have to call but this guy is real tight and it is kind of like o man i guess i gotta call right?

If I just take the initiative and shove like I did it takes the decision making out of the equation.
Plus it puts quaetions in his head.
With his stack size and nittyness this is a real tough spot IMO.

OBV i was hoping to shove and for him to fold but he called and showed up with KK.

If i call his shove after 3betting it seems like kinda a bad play to me but it is soooo borderline.

Thats why i posted this hand.

Any thoughts woud be appreciated.

Quote

03-12-2011 , 07:43 PM

#24

Texas Chuck

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 6,237

if he had 3b this is a trivial fold in the 45s on FTP. However as Stevepa pointed out since he is isoing limpers Im 3b/c here.

Quote

03-12-2011 , 07:47 PM

#25

stoaf88

centurion

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 188

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texas Chuck

if he had 3b this is a trivial fold in the 45s on FTP. However as Stevepa pointed out since he is isoing limpers Im 3b/c here.

I guess this is the best option of 3 bad options.

Quote

Page 1 of 2

First

1 2

Last

Post Reply Subscribe

...

Page 1 of 2

First

1 2

Last