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09-16-2010 , 05:22 PM
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Full Tilt Poker $24,000 Guarantee (Rebuy) No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t150/t300 Blinds + t25 - 9 players - View hand 930510
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UTG+1: t12793 M = 18.95
UTG+2: t7185 M = 10.64
MP1: t22078 M = 32.71
MP2: t33544 M = 49.69
Hero (CO): t14115 M = 20.91
BTN: t5973 M = 8.85
SB: t22634 M = 33.53
BB: t20813 M = 30.83
UTG: t8395 M = 12.44

Pre Flop: (t675) Hero is CO with Q A
3 folds, MP1 raises to t700, 1 fold, Hero calls t700, 3 folds

Flop: (t2075) 5 T J (2 players)
MP1 requests TIME, MP1 bets t1260, Hero calls t1260

Turn: (t4595) K (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets t2700, MP1 requests TIME, MP1 calls t2700

River: (t9995) K (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero ??
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09-16-2010 , 06:58 PM
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as played vbet 4.4k to get called by Jx which i think is the biggest part of his range
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09-16-2010 , 07:09 PM
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b/f or b/c?, i probably check behind. cause we have a big vb range and he is never like donking out a better hand. he probably expects us to bet a lot.
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09-17-2010 , 12:01 AM
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info about villain? and hero?
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09-17-2010 , 12:04 AM
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I dont like a jam I think we miss out on too much

A def nice vbet seems in order here, whether its a b/f or b/c I guess depends on the nittyness of the villian which hasnt been mentioned but against any std player I b/c

As for vbet sizing amounts its been mentioned before but somewhere near the 4.5k amount, but that can be adjusted on what you think he is capable of calling
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09-17-2010 , 03:15 AM
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b/f on river seems terrible. if you are going to bet half your remaining stack on the river, you should definitely call a raise. i'd probably just check behind because I don't think he will b calling with Jx.
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09-17-2010 , 02:19 PM
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can't b/f guys barely have a psb left

I jam or check back basically

does worse call and/or does better check there
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09-17-2010 , 02:27 PM
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I bet here...probably 4-5k
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09-17-2010 , 02:28 PM
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Quote:
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can't b/f guys barely have a psb left

I jam or check back basically

does worse call and/or does better check there
I agree to never b/f, but I think a b/c is fine, I think it'll get called with less a lot more often than a jam will.
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09-17-2010 , 02:35 PM
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I agree to never b/f, but I think a b/c is fine, I think it'll get called with less a lot more often than a jam will.
b/c is fine if you think you can get value but i just don't see it
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09-17-2010 , 03:06 PM
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b/c is fine if you think you can get value but i just don't see it
I think we can certainly get value from a J or a passively played KQ, (maybe even QQ?) .
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09-17-2010 , 03:43 PM
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value range might be something like KQ, QQ, and AJ imo. We already have AQ though so that makes QQ very unlikely and eliminates some combos of AJ or KQ
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09-17-2010 , 04:59 PM
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value range might be something like KQ, QQ, and AJ imo. We already have AQ though so that makes QQ very unlikely and eliminates some combos of AJ or KQ
I've had it verified that card removal doesn't work, imo.
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09-17-2010 , 05:01 PM
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3650/call
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