ITT everyone berates me and hopefully cures my chronic FPS, w/amusing hand example
02-18-2011
, 12:57 PM
Here's a hand in which I'm pretty sure every decision I made was the nut worst it could be. BTN is a fish running 13/6 roughly, shown no previous signs of opening light. Crap like this has got to be crippling my winrate, yes? 
Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t400/t800 Blinds + t75 - 5 players - View hand 1187305
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter
Hero (SB): t46426 M = 29.48
BB: t25057 M = 15.91
UTG: t39538 M = 25.10
CO: t3570 M = 2.27
BTN: t47433 M = 30.12
Pre Flop: (t1575) Hero is SB with J
Q
2 folds, BTN raises to t2400, Hero calls t2000, 1 fold
Flop: (t5975) 6
5 
4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets t2400, Hero raises to t6111, BTN raises to t11200, Hero calls t5089
Turn: (t28375) T (2 players)
Hero bets t32751 all in
Poker Stars $4.00+$0.40 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t400/t800 Blinds + t75 - 5 players - View hand 1187305
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter
Hero (SB): t46426 M = 29.48
BB: t25057 M = 15.91
UTG: t39538 M = 25.10
CO: t3570 M = 2.27
BTN: t47433 M = 30.12
Pre Flop: (t1575) Hero is SB with J
Q 2 folds, BTN raises to t2400, Hero calls t2000, 1 fold
Flop: (t5975) 6
5 4 (2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets t2400, Hero raises to t6111, BTN raises to t11200, Hero calls t5089
Turn: (t28375) T
(2 players)Hero bets t32751 all in
02-18-2011
, 01:11 PM
02-18-2011
, 01:11 PM
Oh dear God.
Fold pre.
Fold flop. Fold to raise on flop.
But sure as played turn shove is good.
I mean, you know this is high variance. You had a decent idea (try to take the hand away in position) and followed through by raising the flop, but once he comes back over the top he's telling you he has a real hand and he isn't letting go of it, ergo calling the flop raise and beyond is pretty spew.
A for effort tho.
Fold pre.
Fold flop. Fold to raise on flop.
But sure as played turn shove is good.
I mean, you know this is high variance. You had a decent idea (try to take the hand away in position) and followed through by raising the flop, but once he comes back over the top he's telling you he has a real hand and he isn't letting go of it, ergo calling the flop raise and beyond is pretty spew.
A for effort tho.
02-18-2011
, 01:17 PM
Quote:
Why do you refer to the button playing 13/6 as a "fish", seems more like a nit to me.
This might be good spot to 3-bet preflop to something like 7000, then c-bet the flop.
As played, I like the c/r on the flop here, and I think that that will take down the pot often, but after he reraises, I think calling is pretty bad. It's time to give up on the hand.
This might be good spot to 3-bet preflop to something like 7000, then c-bet the flop.
As played, I like the c/r on the flop here, and I think that that will take down the pot often, but after he reraises, I think calling is pretty bad. It's time to give up on the hand.
I guess I just thought that fish was more used to refer to quality of play rather than style - he was a loser on OPR, so I chose 'fish' instead of 'nit'. Semantics, I guess.
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Oh dear God.
Fold pre.
Fold flop. Fold to raise on flop.
But sure as played turn shove is good.
I mean, you know this is high variance. You had a decent idea (try to take the hand away in position) and followed through by raising the flop, but once he comes back over the top he's telling you he has a real hand and he isn't letting go of it, ergo calling the flop raise and beyond is pretty spew.
A for effort tho.
Fold pre.
Fold flop. Fold to raise on flop.
But sure as played turn shove is good.
I mean, you know this is high variance. You had a decent idea (try to take the hand away in position) and followed through by raising the flop, but once he comes back over the top he's telling you he has a real hand and he isn't letting go of it, ergo calling the flop raise and beyond is pretty spew.
A for effort tho.
02-18-2011
, 01:32 PM
02-18-2011
, 01:35 PM
Yeah, I agree. I almost 3bet, not sure what stopped me.
02-18-2011
, 01:49 PM
02-18-2011
, 01:53 PM
02-18-2011
, 02:02 PM
02-18-2011
, 02:12 PM
However, I don't want to start sticking up for myself, that's not the point of this thread.
02-18-2011
, 02:15 PM
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theginger45 = aaron kanter?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33wNa...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33wNa...eature=related
Although I would like to point out that I didn't raise/call off all my chips with just a FD, I'm not quite at that stage yet.
02-18-2011
, 02:23 PM
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My thinking at the time was that his min 3bet didn't really rep much, because my check-raise didn't really rep much, so my plan was to jam any 3/7/8/heart turn. Villain tanked before calling with KK, so I guess it was close to working.
However, I don't want to start sticking up for myself, that's not the point of this thread.
However, I don't want to start sticking up for myself, that's not the point of this thread.
Pre I think is close between 3betting and calling, against stationdonks I think calling is best and against weak donks and regs I think 3bet is best.
02-18-2011
, 03:01 PM
