**** this kid, tho.

LOL if the players money get seized I wouldn`t like to have my face all around.

I would think all non us players will be able to get there money eventually. They legally operate out of the isle of man. If they where based in the US then we would all be !@#$ed.

so when will the mtt time sched change to become more euro friendly?

Oh boy, it actually happened, best of luck to everyone.

Get a vpn, keep grinding while you figure out what country to move to

I don't want to see my tax dollars being used to fuel the drug war, and that includes prosecuting gangs/cartels who supply the product. Note that this is different than saying I think they should go free for crimes that go along with the drug game. (murders, assaults, etc)

I also don't to see my tax dollars being used to prosecute people who did what was necessary to circumvent laws that attempt to control what I can or cannot do with my money in the comfort of my own home.

Before being convicted of money laundering, the DOJ has to prove the money was used to facilitate a crime. They have a long way to go before getting there.

It is my understanding that this is a common practice throughout corporate america. (not just gambling companies) So even though this is a fact, it doesn't really mean anything unless the DOJ can prove the money was part of a crime.

This is all speculation at this point. I'm certainly not going to take the DOJ on its word that they're telling it like it is. For all we know, these banks truly did know what was going on. "Bribing" banks is so lolstandard its not even something I'm thinking about at all.

The DOJ could slap similar charges on hundreds (thousands probably) of corporations, and while it doesn't make it "right" necessarily, if that's what actually happened, it certainly means I can hope the sites beat these cherry-picked charges.

As far as the sites doing us a disservice by not making it more clear to us how things were going, I couldn't disagree more.

I applaud them for sticking around as long as they did, and don't feel they had any obligation to do anything other than offer us a place to play poker. It's not up to them to dissect the current online poker climate and write monthly reports to keep us in the loop. (not saying you expected that much, just giving an example)

Would more warning have been nice? Sure. But the writing was on the wall and anyone who plays the game seriously who didn't have a plan in place for something like this happening was being naive. (I still feel sorry for them, don't get me wrong)

TOO SOON

worst case scenario in 2 years we'll have legalized online poker and lots of fish to make us forget this awful day. hopefully then I won't keep most of my net worth online.

I have been logged on to FT since Friday morning and am still able to play in tourneys/cash games. I wonder if I never log out and dload the software update how long I will be able to play....one time?

ok

Just wait till you win a tourney and then you'll get a message saying you werent supposed to playing and money will be confiscated

im also still able to sit in a cash game on ftp but not on stars

This might sound crazy but assuming Euros can eventually cash out no problem then could I get overseas bank account and deposit my $ in there, then walk in with a suitcase, cash out, fly home.

yeah and some large tax on all winnings aswell, sweet, can't wait to give corrupt scum more free money.

Just so it's clear, "corrupt scum" are politicians and "free money" is income tax?

But will I get my Jersey if I ship an FTOPS event?

i definitely agree with the politicians being corrupt scum part

Has any Euros got their money from Fulltilt?

No argument there.

just cashed out 9k from full tilt via bank transfer, will see if it works !

have waited 15 hours for my 6000$ moneybookers withdrawal... I'm not a believer anymore

To anybody posting here (or anywhere else on 2+2) about the sites "getting what they deserve" and not "being worthy of our support":

After the UIGEA nobody in the 2 + 2 forum would be able truthfully to claim they weren't aware US residents' transfer of money to or from poker sites only could happen by breach of this law.

If you live in the US and post here you probably played poker at some point after the passing of the UIGEA.

If you played poker, then you knowingly helped the sites break the law, and you're as guilty as anybody else, including the sites.

Which obviously is not guilty, since UIGEA represents nothing more than an un-constitutional seizure of personal freedom from all US citizens and residents, and any reasonable means applied by individuals and organizations to circumvent its negative effects are genuine expressions of our first amendment rights and general civic rights and duties.

Hmmm I feel sorry for all of you guys in the US. I´m euro and I cashed out my whole BR on 12th April(>80k €) and planned to deposit soon again. If I don`t get that money I`m dead. Srsly I just moved out from home and that`s all I have, my only income is poker.

Looks like you might want to take this opportunity to go back to school. I'd recommend "Intro to Logic" and "American Political System".