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02-23-2015 , 03:16 AM

RalphWaldoEmerson

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Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 6,102

Both players are fish, SB is crazy (vpip 50)

Merge - $0+$0|<> NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 3,970 (VPIP: 3.77, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 53)
MP: 26,925 (VPIP: 17.44, PFR: 8.38, 3Bet Preflop: 1.37, Hands: 195)
MP+1: 8,902 (VPIP: 26.83, PFR: 6.86, 3Bet Preflop: 4.21, Hands: 205)
CO: 61,046 (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 14.38, 3Bet Preflop: 6.00, Hands: 157)
BTN: 10,647 (VPIP: 24.14, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
SB: 27,427 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 17.14, 3Bet Preflop: 1.61, Hands: 144)
BB: 9,190 (VPIP: 34.07, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 2.63, Hands: 92)
Hero (UTG): 47,401

8 players post ante of 120, SB posts SB 600, BB posts BB 1,200

Pre Flop: (pot: 2,760) Hero has K

Hero raises to 2,400, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 1,800, BB raises to 9,070 and is all-in

re-jam or fold?

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02-23-2015 , 08:45 AM

card0

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 125

fold

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02-23-2015 , 08:56 AM

flushje

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Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 354

Just fold pre, but before you open in a spot like this you should already know who you are folding too and who you are calling

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02-23-2015 , 06:23 PM

ebsbfish4

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Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 246

I would just fold pre, too many players who should be looking to get it in here.

As played I would just fold. If BB is decently wide here and SB is pretty much always folding then shoving would be a marginally profitable, but I'm not sure those are assumptions are true. And if they are not true then jamming becomes bad

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02-24-2015 , 11:31 PM

lordjoseph7

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Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 7

I would not have entered the pot in the first place.

UTG KTo with two fishes at the blinds? Ty but no thanks. So yeah if I did enter the pot, I would have folded to all in from a fish.

The only exception is if he/she have been spamming all in, which is a sign that he got bored and just want out, then I would jam it with KTo.

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02-25-2015 , 01:23 AM

Dragons_Egg

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,861

Fold the first time.

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02-25-2015 , 01:35 AM

JJH_1981

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Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 693

Opening KTo UTG against a table full of reshove stacks?

Not good, you're asking to get put in this spot.

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