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03-31-2010 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by C-Unit
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this has been brought up many times before and no one ever takes it seriously

aakkari is a f joke. he is top of the list of team pros that need to gtfo.

I mean these guys are idiots, lets break it down:

IF YOU ARE TEAM PRO, YOU REPRESENT THE SITE, THEREFORE YOU NEED TO REMAIN IMPARTIAL/UNBIAS.

The amount of times I've seen aakkari flooding the chat box with green nonsense and Vamoo's, in an attempt to show his support for the Brazilian random at the table. It's ridiculous. Then at the end if they win it's all "YEH, TAKE IT BACK TO BRAZIL, TAKE IT FOR BRAZIL, F ALL THE OTHER COUNTRIES. BRAZIL WIN. VAMOOOOOOOOO"

It's not the world cup. And if it were the world cup, would the refs and linesmen be allowed to openly offer encouragement and cheer mid-game when a team scored? Uh, no.

I get really really pissed when I see this. If this seems lame, then maybe it helps if I say the reason I get so pissed is I think to myself "How would I feel right now if I was that non-reg recreational player at his first ever FT on stars?" I'd be like "whats all this green chat stuff, I don't understand what's happening, hang on, those are the site representatives cheering for that guy, holy crap he just sucked out HUGE... wtf is going on?"

This is the reason they shouldn't do it. It alienates newbies / fish. It is wholely unprofessional and in general is going to do more to drives peopl away from stars rather than to it.
Thx, this is what I wanted to say, english isnt my main language tho so thx you made this post
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03-31-2010 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by C-Unit
Obviously it's going to be impossible to get a precise analogy here. I think I'm pretty close.

What I'm trying to say is that to Joe Random, a stars Team Pro is the most tangible representative of the site that they have. They are an Official of Pokerstars. A Team Pro coming to his table is a big deal for him, he is probably kinda thrilled about it. A Team Pro coming to his table accompanied by 5/6 friends, and then having all of them flood the chatbox with offputting crap...? He's not so chuffed now. 5 minutes later Joe gets it allin with AA vs Vamoos QQ and the chatbox goes mental with TeamPro and his friends calling for a Q:

1) The Q doesn't hit and the rail goes off at Joe in a language he doesn't really understand. But he can make out the odd expletive and the use of his stars screename makes it pretty clear there's a bunch of ppl swearing at him right now. None of them receive any infractions.

2) The Q hits on the river. Joe is knocked out and gets told to gtfo by the rail which then erupts in Vamoo's. Joe is pretty suspicious about how that Q hit when the site representatives wanted it to. He is left feeling a little salty about his whole FT experience.

I mean I really don't see how you can make a valid argument supporting this. N.B. Brazil is a big country with lots of fish is not a valid argument.

Forgive my ridiculous use of examples/analogies today.
1)- If Joe is really pissed off by Portugese curse words he can email support, put it in a translator and ask for a chat ban. 2)- Pretty much your argument is that no Team Pro should be able to root for anyone. I disagree. I think it promotes a camaraderie among groups of players which helps promotes the game and their site.

I never understood why it upsets english speakers so much. If you think they are colluding copy it and put it in a translator. 99.9% of the time it will not effect you at all (besides giving some players who can rarely chat the opportunity to chat with someone else, and will likely encourage them to play more). In this situation they were on break and the person speaking another language wasn't even at the table. I see threads like this all the time, and the only reason I think is because people just want to get Team Pros in trouble because they are jealous of them (and especially jealous of the International Team Pros).
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03-31-2010 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by fly44
1)- If Joe is really pissed off by Portugese curse words he can email support, put it in a translator and ask for a chat ban. 2)- Pretty much your argument is that no Team Pro should be able to root for anyone. I disagree. I think it promotes a camaraderie among groups of players which helps promotes the game and their site.

I never understood why it upsets english speakers so much. If you think they are colluding copy it and put it in a translator. 99.9% of the time it will not effect you at all (besides giving some players who can rarely chat the opportunity to chat with someone else, and will likely encourage them to play more). In this situation they were on break and the person speaking another language wasn't even at the table. I see threads like this all the time, and the only reason I think is because people just want to get Team Pros in trouble because they are jealous of them (and especially jealous of the International Team Pros).
Why would people be more jealous of the international team pros than the North American team pros? Why is it Joe's responsibility to take steps just so he can understand the table talk? What if he is unaware of the steps he can take? Whose responsibility is it to make him aware?

Your post reeks of condescension towards English speakers and is full of fallacies.
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03-31-2010 , 05:22 PM
aakari is actually a pretty nice dude, & im all for more vamos @ the tables, evn if that requires them chat chanting
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03-31-2010 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by C-Unit
thread does not fail

this has been brought up many times before and no one ever takes it seriously

aakkari is a f joke. he is top of the list of team pros that need to gtfo.

I mean these guys are idiots, lets break it down:

IF YOU ARE TEAM PRO, YOU REPRESENT THE SITE, THEREFORE YOU NEED TO REMAIN IMPARTIAL/UNBIAS.

The amount of times I've seen aakkari flooding the chat box with green nonsense and Vamoo's, in an attempt to show his support for the Brazilian random at the table. It's ridiculous. Then at the end if they win it's all "YEH, TAKE IT BACK TO BRAZIL, TAKE IT FOR BRAZIL, F ALL THE OTHER COUNTRIES. BRAZIL WIN. VAMOOOOOOOOO"

It's not the world cup. And if it were the world cup, would the refs and linesmen be allowed to openly offer encouragement and cheer mid-game when a team scored? Uh, no.

I get really really pissed when I see this. If this seems lame, then maybe it helps if I say the reason I get so pissed is I think to myself "How would I feel right now if I was that non-reg recreational player at his first ever FT on stars?" I'd be like "whats all this green chat stuff, I don't understand what's happening, hang on, those are the site representatives cheering for that guy, holy crap he just sucked out HUGE... wtf is going on?"

This is the reason they shouldn't do it. It alienates newbies / fish. It is wholely unprofessional and in general is going to do more to drives peopl away from stars rather than to it.
This... it basically will sour the fish and it's pretty stoopid... don't know why stars allows this from people they pay to represent their site...
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03-31-2010 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fly44
1)- If Joe is really pissed off by Portugese curse words he can email support, put it in a translator and ask for a chat ban. 2)- Pretty much your argument is that no Team Pro should be able to root for anyone. I disagree. I think it promotes a camaraderie among groups of players which helps promotes the game and their site.

I never understood why it upsets english speakers so much. If you think they are colluding copy it and put it in a translator. 99.9% of the time it will not effect you at all (besides giving some players who can rarely chat the opportunity to chat with someone else, and will likely encourage them to play more). In this situation they were on break and the person speaking another language wasn't even at the table. I see threads like this all the time, and the only reason I think is because people just want to get Team Pros in trouble because they are jealous of them (and especially jealous of the International Team Pros).
This is ridiculous. Pokerstars originated as an English speaking site. Why should innocent players have to use translators to see if people are cheating? If anything, people who don't understand English are the ones that should have to use translators. But this is such an inherently pathetic topic of discussion, I really don't think it should continue.

Harmless chat between Team Pro members and citizens of their native country is obviously fine. In fact it's a good thing, it brings more traffic to the site. It's the very reason stars has the rule that Team Pro are allowed to talk to fans in languages other than English.

Team Pro members cheering for some people and rooting for others to bust is going too far. The line is crossed when innocent players have their games compromised in any way whatsoever by the actions of Team Pro members. Interfering with chop discussions (happened recently) is compromising someone's game financially. Flooding the chatbox calling for a 1 outer (happens all the time) is compromising someone's game emotionally, as is being berated/insulted in another language while Team Pro watch on (people itt have had this happen to them).

It has nothing to do with nationality or jealousy. If Brazilian Team Pro members are going to be the ones that step over the line then it's natural that the spotlight goes on them. You think that if Moneymaker or Raymer rocked onto an FT and told ppl what they thought the deal figures should be people wouldn't talk?
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03-31-2010 , 05:59 PM
GOD DAMN SPANIARDS
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03-31-2010 , 06:13 PM
the real question is what the eff is makavelyces avatar?
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03-31-2010 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by wavegoodbye
This... it basically will sour the fish and it's pretty stoopid... don't know why stars allows this from people they pay to represent their site...
lol at fish being soured by this, are you serious? Look at the broadcasts of poker, 9/10 amateurs are celebrating after winning a big hand. This just lets them enjoy the show and dump more money.
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03-31-2010 , 06:38 PM
there are some absolutely terrible analogies being made
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03-31-2010 , 06:39 PM
lol i vamoo the **** out of people now whether I'm cheering for them or just randomly saying it. I'm pretty sure every time I see a certain person at the table and he wins/loses I give him a vamoo. At this point I think it's just general poker terminology because of it's blatant over-use by chat spamming brazilians. It's like a ***** or gtfo or lol wp at this point.


And yeah mak's avatar kinda creeps me out.
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03-31-2010 , 07:09 PM
Just wanted to add that I tell Akari to Vamo on the regular and he snap-returns the sentiment.
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03-31-2010 , 07:34 PM
wait until you are at a FT live with one of these Brasa's...
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03-31-2010 , 08:02 PM
god they're so much worse live. I went to one of the lapts and it was a constant stream of busto brasillians crowding around a table when one of their awful compadres was all in and screaming vamo constantly during the board roll out against the white kid.
at least online its kind of funny, when there is a group of belligerent, brain damaged degenerates yelling "vamo! vamo! vamovamovamovamovamo" in your ear you may or may not wish death upon them and their families, ymmv.

On a serious note, the reason that the analogies break down is because of the paradigm that people are thinking in IRT nationality and country being a major factor in the event at hand (such as at the World Cup). However, as much as stars tries to reinforce the national image, which is cool, they should try to increase the new player pool as much as possible, poker has nothing to do with national pride. Its all ****ing Joe Hachem and his drunk Aussie entourage's fault in my opinion. Notwithstanding, a more pertinent analogy might be something like Tiger Woods being a guest celebrity at some amateur golf tournament being run by Nike or whatever sponsors he has left with there being like an American and a French person playing and yelling "Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh BUDDDDDDDDDDDDAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY, GET SOME! **** THOSE FROGS BAYBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. USA USA USA MOTHER****ER!" in the middle of every hole as he walks around and talks to them even though noone else can because their observer chat has been turned off.
you get the idea.
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03-31-2010 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by NeverScaredB
Still not even close. You're listing a bunch of people who have power/authority/control over aspects of an event. If some stars programmers came and started vamoooing, your analogy would almost make sense.
I once saw Bryan-S vamooooooooing a guy in chat and I was like wtf is this really apropriate? Same guy eventually ended up winning after some sick setups

true story
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03-31-2010 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SlevinUp
Also lol @ Spanish
and he was speaking another language, i'm pretty sure it was.. asian.
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03-31-2010 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mlagoo
and he was speaking another language, i'm pretty sure it was.. asian.
awesome
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03-31-2010 , 10:04 PM
If I'm ever at a FT and there's someone at the table who has a bunch of loud, obnoxious Brazilians on their rail, I can say with full confidence that there will be a huge rail war and it will most likely get out of hand.
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03-31-2010 , 10:49 PM
This is possibly the most racist thing I've ever said, but brazilians always act like douchebags in HoN too and the first time someone said vamo I almost broke my keyboard.
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03-31-2010 , 11:07 PM
Very troubling.
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03-31-2010 , 11:37 PM
wait... they don't speak spanish in brazil!

The most fun thing to do to combat is to know someone who speaks their language (whatever it may be) and start saying really disgusting things to them... they get so mad
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03-31-2010 , 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tdomeski
wait until you are at a FT live with one of these Brasa's...
i've been waiting long enough
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03-31-2010 , 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Kramerica
wait... they don't speak spanish in brazil!

The most fun thing to do to combat is to know someone who speaks their language (whatever it may be) and start saying really disgusting things to them... they get so mad
Tough to do when your chat is always banned, though.
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04-01-2010 , 12:48 AM
op is right brazilian poker players are the fkn pits, dbags.
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04-01-2010 , 02:12 AM
I mean yea, the Brazilians are fairly annoying in the chat, but it's no big deal and I'm anti anything that discourages more Brazilians playing poker.
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