$10r WTA satellite on NJ site for WSOP side event seat; 2 tables left. My image is tight. I was raising to induce. I think open push would have been best, as I have such a small relative stack that people will call. Didn't think most of table would see the minraise as strong, and will I do it as a raise/fold here. What is my calling range versus this shove?

Blinds 400/800/100
Hero 11K
UTG+1 19K
MP1 61K
MP2 43K
HJ 44K
CO 95K
BTN 68K
SB 67K
BB 33K
Hero raises to 1600, HJ raises to 44K allin, folds to Hero who ???

2 tables left but how many seats and what's the value?

interesting to consider whether V is capped, but i'd argue V is uncapped readless if it's close to bubble. he'll also assume no FE against your UTG range (which should be tight).

imo...
99/AQ if I need the double and V is something other than a nit.
JJ/AK if 2 to 3 left to bubble and several shorties
KK+ if exact bubble.

WTA stands for winner take all. 1 seat.

What range do you put the reg on when he isoshoves 55xBB into 4 players?

dude we shouldn't have a r/f range to a single rejam here... we could have a case for folding to multiple all ins .. im calling my entire opening range here..


as far as range for an obviously bad reg here? {AK,1010, JJ}

Your statements contradict each other. If we have 99 or AQ, and his range is TT/JJ/AK, shouldn't we fold, as we don't have odds against that range.

Also, not sure we can't r/f some hands in this situation, but this wasn't intended as a r/f.

sry, i mentally block all 3 letter acronyms starting with WT.

any pair might be +EV here. there are more combos of AK than JJ and it's such a "i have AK and don't know what to do with it" play.

as for the pairs in his range even brain-fade jams with 22 are possible, but JJ/QQ is most likely.

what did you have/do?

I had TT.

Also, I had previously thought he was a decent reg.

Call

Yes, defo push. TT is hardly the hand we want to induce loads of callers with a strong probability of overs. Perhaps we induce QQ+, but I think I probably shove that as well.

As played call. I think with QQ+ he might just make a normal 3b. I expect him to show up with one of {88,99, JJ, AK}

I called and he had KK. I thought afterwards that given that it was a reg, and the play didn't seem to make sense with any hand, it was too likely he had me dominated.

Not sure if he thought there were players behind who would call it light and he had a reason for this. Maybe he isn't that good or was in a weird mood or something.

I agree that if you just make a standard raise here it should be to induce and you should never be folding unless there's absurd action behind you.

This is fine as standard advice, but a 55xBB shove from a reg is pretty absurd and at that point I think you need to re-evaluate.

It might seem results oriented, but I thought some more about his and it is a pretty clear fold. Villain probably sees me as a reg and the UTG miniraise looks real strong to him and he thinks I am never folding. So I actually think it is marginal whether to gii versus a normal 3-bet from him.

Then you have to think about what he is up to with the push. If I think he is a good player, what could he be doing this with but JJ+/AK? Is this guy really doing this with anything but a big pair?

I assume he thought players to act with AK/JJ/QQ would call the push for 55xBB and occasionally a donk would spaz call. If he 3-bet normally and someone calls though, there is a good change I push and he can 5-bet. Could his push be a good play at some tables?

Advice like you can't fold with 13xBB and villain is bad is not helpful. Instead, it is more interesting to look at whether I should call, what villain is up to with this play, and if his play is bad and if so how bad.

snapcall and pretty happy

Happy calling off

Hard to open fold a 13bb stack

Would you have been astonished to see AK?

And yes, this hand is all about the bold bit

He could have AK, but I am not sure if this player would do that. Didn't think he would ever spaz shove without a reason. Don't think he would do it without AK or a higher pp. Not sure I am getting odds to call at 1.6-1. I can't see how it is a snap call as some are saying.

Villain was brilliant27.

Aside from my decision, wondering if his push could be good with KK, AK or any other hand.

shoulda posted this in nvg then

2007

Meh maybe but are you saying that r/f 13bbs with 1010 to a single 3b is better than jamming pre which is obv +ev?

Having a tiny steal range is fine, I'm sure lissi isn't arguing which one tt belongs in

It is OK to r/f hands with 13xBB. Obviously, not TT.

Obviously, our intention is to gii versus a single 3-bet with TT. However, poker is based on reads, and sometimes we need to modify plans. We have more information when villain overshoves. At least, he has a hand he is willing to gii for 55xBB against any of 4 players to act.

OK, let's look at another example. 7th hand of the mid to high stakes tournament, starting stacks 20K, blinds 10/20. You lost almost all your stack getting allin on a previous hand.

You have 260 chips and for some reason decide to miniraise UTG with TT. Reg UTG+1 pushes for 20K, folded to you. Do you call or fold, assuming you are not just looking to finish the tournament?