this is from a 5.50 tournament i played on carbon some time ago

Stacks

Hero (CO): 11,259
Villan (SB): 13,550

Villan has been playing fairly loose, i dont have pokertracker yet, but if i had to guess, id say 23/20/3.1 or something along those lines over about 100 hands, he seems like hes overeducated and underexperienced, he cold 4 bet the tightest at my table with AQ and then when the guy shoved all in, this guy called and hit trips on the flop against the tight guys KK

Blinds 1/200 8 handed 25 ante

folded to me in the CO

AJ

Raise to 600

One of my friends who is a super nit VPIP like 6% or something stupidly low like that and plays 5/10 suggested that this raise is a mistake, i would like to hear how

SB calls

Pot 1600

Flop

JT9

Villan: Bets 900

Hero: Calls

I hate this flop especially that hes leading at it, if i call then half the deck is a scare card, i cant really raise because alot of the hands that im protecting from would call anyways, and i dont want to bloat the pot, im too deep to jam, and i can never fold top pair on this board, so i cant see how anything but a call is correct

Turn 5
Villan checks
Hero checks

I want to keep the pot small and i feel like he will still call with a draw even if i try to buy it, and i dont want to get into a hairy situation where a scare card comes on the river and now im forced to just guess

River 6

Villan checks
Hero bets 1300
Villan folds

I saw this guy call in this sort of spot with K high before and i figured he might try to hero call me in this spot, and from what ive seen, he isnt the type to check raise the river for value, is my river bet a mistake, i feel pretty weird about this whole hand

Pre-flop: In general I would tend bet smaller; standard is something like 2-2.5xBB. You don't need to bet 3x in tournaments, because you WANT people to call with worse hand. Of course when antes comes to play you can little bit adjust your open bets sizes.

Flop: Hero hit but it's dangerous flop. Smaller cbet would be better to keep pot size smaller, bc to this board Hero don't want to play big pots.
Turn: if Villain is loose, we could get small value for lower pair / kicker. Small value bet.
River: I don't believe there is much value left bc of the possibility of flush and checked turn. Depends of Villain can you get him to pay. In my case I wouldn't value bet anymore river if turn is checked.

I like how you played this. Would size pre and river smaller, but otherwise wp.

Yeah, besides the large preflop raise I think you played this pretty well. Doesn't seem like he's going to raise the turn too much- I might throw in a 1/3 pot size bet there to charge him for the draw and will generally lead to the action being checked back to you unless villain smashes and decides to lead.

he donked into me on the flop, i didnt bet until the river

3x was the raise i was making consistently, but i see

the turn i figured i might have missed a little value, but at the same time, i didnt want to bloat the pot on such a crappy board, and he might have checked the turn and bet the river if he had a made hand


Pre i get, but river i bet 1300 into 3400, why would i bet smaller here? and how much smaller

ALSO another question, two different scenarios

Scenario 1
The turn is 8c, what do i do here? cheap showdown? prepare to fold my hand to a bet?


Scenario 2
Lets say instead of AJ i have JT, same flop Same bet, am i forced to raise and call an all in? raise and fold to an all in? is flatting the original bet still viable?

missed a bet ott

I didnt want to bloat the pot and have a scary card comes on the river, if i bet the turn, then i feel like it makes it hard to bet the river even after its checked to me

1300 is good. Miscalc the pot.

[QUOTE=Bigkahun4;43808883]he donked into me on the flop, i didnt bet until the river

Oops my misread. But donk on flop doesn't mean he's probably too strong. I would think he mostly donks midpair and maybe with straight draw (98/T8 would make perfectly sense). And as played, I think you did well. Checking turn to keep pot still on control and trying to get value (1300 : 3400) at river with bet when it's checked back. You missed value ott this time, but I guess you didn't want to come check raised on scary board.

I agree, and thats exactly why i checked the turn, against a guy who can bust me, i dont want to get blown off the hand and i dont want to bloat the pot for no reason on such a scary board for my hand

Heres another scenario id like answered

Lets say instead of the donk bet, its checked to me and i lead for 750 on the flop and he raises to 2200, am i forced to release? or is there any argument to an all in

your friend is a loser

what?

One of my friends who is a super nit VPIP like 6% or something stupidly low like that and plays 5/10 suggested that this raise is a mistake, i would like to hear how

OHHHH right right right, wish you would have clarified that :P

but honestly, Can raising AJs OTB ever be a mistake in a tourney?

no it can't!

I personally think the river bet is too thin and as said by others 2-2.5x pre.

PS, your friend doesn't know how to play so don't listen to him! His style of play is predictable, won't win money and very exploitable.

i figured :P another thing interesting, he will fold 88 UTG 9 handed, but raise 34 i just found out talking to him...yeahhhh hes a cool guy and all, but i dont wanna get into bad habits

He is cordially invited to my home game... lol. :-)

Ha, i have yet to play with him, we just have talked a little theory

yes but you need to extract value from the multiple draws. i would bet turn and then check river a lot

bet the turn large.

No, not really though.

Raising AJs on the button is not a mistake at all lol.....you can raise any two on the button if you wanted too , but your post flop skills would need to be really good!

going back to OP , I think you played it well. Obv we lost on value ott , but if we're faced a c/r ott what we going to do? stack off with top pair? he could have anything , two pair /straight/set/flush u name it.

it's a shame V never bet out otr , it would of been a easy call.

nh

Sarge