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06-17-2016 , 04:16 AM

blank0909

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 375

I'm sort of confused by villains sizing this hand. I mostly fold in these spots, but would it be a profitable 4b shove?

villain stats - 21/17/10.7 282 hands

Poker Stars, $4 Buy-in (400/800 blinds, 100 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37356869

BTN: 17,186 (21.5 bb)
SB: 11,555 (14.4 bb)
BB: 6,881 (8.6 bb)
Hero (UTG+1): 26,508 (33.1 bb)
UTG+2: 6,470 (8.1 bb)
MP1: 15,460 (19.3 bb)
MP2: 22,266 (27.8 bb)
MP3: 30,362 (38 bb)
: 11 (0 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A

Hero raises to 1,717, 2 folds, MP2 calls 1,717, MP3 raises to 7,165, 5 folds

Flop: (7,162) 5

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (7,162) 7

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (7,162) 2

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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06-17-2016 , 04:42 AM

Glaciem

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 1,830

Whats odd? isn't the standard rule 3bet 2.5-3 x the raise plus 1 for every caller? thats what his 3 bet is.

No i do not think it would be profitable to 4 bet shove unless this guy has been 3betting wide or stealing a lot.

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06-17-2016 , 07:13 AM

TTBrown81

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 36

MP3's 3-bet is still small enough for him to fold to a shove. However, in low buy in events, some players very rarely fold to a 4b shove. There isn't enough information here to determine ranges or tendencies, so you have to use your best judgement.

There is 2000 worth of antes plus blinds, and 10,599 worth of bets. Pot total is 12,599, and you have 24,791 left facing this decision. If this is a profitable 4b shove spot, you need both other players to fold more than 66.3 % of the time. [24791 / (24791 + 12599)] I think it's highly unlikely that you have this much fold equity here.

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