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10-05-2014 , 05:03 AM
Hi guys, so this is a 100€ deepstack MTT played on ps.es
V is runing 28/14 (small sample) i never played with him before, so no reads so far, but it does look fishy
I was playing 26/21/10 3bet, weak/tight table in general, but players start playing back, guning for me, at least is what i noticed at that time.

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $90.65 Buy-in (150/300 blinds, 40 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #31335921

Hero (BB): 31,810 (106 bb)
UTG+1: 29,535 (98.5 bb)
UTG+2: 17,739 (59.1 bb)
MP1: 19,050 (63.5 bb)
MP2: 16,870 (56.2 bb)
MP3: 18,637 (62.1 bb)
CO: 19,410 (64.7 bb)
BTN: 29,726 (99.1 bb)
SB: 23,995 (80 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J J
7 folds, SB raises to 600, Hero raises to 1,745, SB raises to 3,600, Hero calls 1,855

Flop: (7,560) 9 9 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets 3,024, SB raises to 7,250

Hero
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10-05-2014 , 05:50 AM
I think I am suspicious of the min-raise preflop assuming it's not the normal BvB, the small 4-bet sizing and the small flop raise. I think I am beat here and have to fold.

Of course calling is an option with intent to call a shove if you think he could bluff in this spot. Shoving isn't really too much of an option cause anyone with decent hand reading skills can read us for what we have.
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10-07-2014 , 08:39 AM
V looked fishy, but not enough players 4bet bluff (in general), usually they have QQ+, but his line it´s kind of weird, so idk what´s best here: fold, call or shove ?
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10-07-2014 , 05:23 PM
i sigh call flop now...he might convince me on later streets

when i start feeling that people are gettin after me online...its much more often just normal variance and me beeing paranoid
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10-08-2014 , 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by TellMeMore
i sigh call flop now...he might convince me on later streets

when i start feeling that people are gettin after me online...its much more often just normal variance and me beeing paranoid

I was opr a lot and 3betting, so people tend to play back, esp a fish, who is getting frustrated to 3bet him/call him IP etc.
Spoiler:
I was a little sarcastic about the ´´guning for me ´´ stuff :P

Last edited by OutPlayU27; 10-08-2014 at 06:53 AM. Reason: bad jokes
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10-08-2014 , 12:00 PM
how do you want to know the "breaking point" of a total random unless you are moorman...??
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10-09-2014 , 06:41 AM
Not so many responses, maybe because is not a funny hand.
So i decided to shove because :
1. Doesn´t make any sense to c/r with QQ+, is def cbetting
2.Not to many turn cards that i can continue if V barrels
Sooo...

    Poker Stars, $90.65 Buy-in (150/300 blinds, 40 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #31471791

    Hero (BB): 31,810 (106 bb)
    UTG+1: 29,535 (98.5 bb)
    UTG+2: 17,739 (59.1 bb)
    MP1: 19,050 (63.5 bb)
    MP2: 16,870 (56.2 bb)
    MP3: 18,637 (62.1 bb)
    CO: 19,410 (64.7 bb)
    BTN: 29,726 (99.1 bb)
    SB: 23,995 (80 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with J J
    7 folds, SB raises to 600, Hero raises to 1,745, SB raises to 3,600, Hero calls 1,855

    Flop: (7,560) 9 9 7 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets 3,024, SB raises to 7,250, Hero raises to 28,170 and is all-in, SB calls 13,105 and is all-in

    Turn: (48,270) 2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: (48,270) 8 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: 48,270 pot
    Final Board: 9 9 7 2 8
    Hero showed J J and won 48,270 (24,275 net)
    SB showed 2 A and lost (-23,995 net)



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    10-09-2014 , 03:11 PM
    [QUOTE=OutPlayU27;44873113]Not so many responses, maybe because is not a funny hand.
    So i decided to shove because :
    1. Doesn´t make any sense to c/r with QQ+, is def cbetting
    2.Not to many turn cards that i can continue if V barrels
    Sooo...

    As played more times than not V in my opinion will have QQ+. I dont know if doesnt make sense the c/r because its such a dry board, you could do that to induce with QQ+ a worst hand not to fold or lead. Even though its hard to fold giving the image of the V.
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    10-09-2014 , 10:07 PM
    BvB when you've been aggressive... just don't fold.
    I prefer call and call on any turn, if he got there, so be it.
    Seems like he's more likely to barrell off than make some weird call if you 3b jam flop
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    10-09-2014 , 10:34 PM
    #1 in your reasoning is super duper wrong but yeah, don't fold here bvb ever. calling down is better than shoving tho vs most
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    10-10-2014 , 07:31 AM
    Thx guys.
    I think just flat flop and call most turns it´s best (keep the bluffs in his range) wich i agree with you guys.
    Otoh i think most players, even fishes will cbet with they´re entire range on this flop, unless they hit gin, doesn´t make sense to give a free card holding let´s say TT-KK, and if V decide to pot control/being balanced, being OOP (not this V obv LOL) will rather x/c not x/r, but i might be wrong tho

    Last edited by OutPlayU27; 10-10-2014 at 07:39 AM. Reason: spelling problems as usual
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