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03-28-2011 , 03:14 PM
He's active/thinking; I've been tight. Is this one of those spots where a bigger flop cbet is better? What to do ott?

Full Tilt Poker $25K Super Stack (Early Antes) No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds + t5 - 9 players -

Hero (UTG+2): t5483 M = 45.69
MP1: t9724 M = 81.03
MP2: t5256 M = 43.80
CO: t6372 M = 53.10
BTN: t10819 M = 90.16
SB: t3631 M = 30.26
BB: t2152 M = 17.93
UTG: t5139 M = 42.83
UTG+1: t6905 M = 57.54

Pre Flop: (t120) Hero is UTG+2 with K K
2 folds, Hero raises to t150, 3 folds, BTN calls t150, 2 folds

Flop: (t420) 2 5 4 (2 players)
Hero bets t190, BTN calls t190

Turn: (t800) 3 (2 players)
Hero ?
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03-28-2011 , 05:46 PM
I dont think youre ever getting 3 streets without his help so, c/c because his range doesnt have a huge amount of straights in it, but b/f sucks.
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03-28-2011 , 05:57 PM
hmmm... maybe go like 4x pre.
def bet 250 otf.
turn sucks.
Usually I like to keep control of the pot here so I like b/f like 325 except if he minraise or smth stupid.
U can also c/c if he bets a reasonable amount here. If he bets to big, just get out of the way here.
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03-28-2011 , 06:23 PM
bomb flop

bet like 250-300ish ott/fold to a raise.
doubt he raises an ace, then if you hit your flush b/f river.

if he minraises then just fold.
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03-28-2011 , 06:24 PM
hate folding to minraises imo (not to say that it's not correct sometimes or that I don't do it; I just hate it)
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03-28-2011 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Gadarene
hate folding to minraises imo (not to say that it's not correct sometimes or that I don't do it; I just hate it)
ya me too. but the RIO are huge when we get minraised since I think he does it with As alot more than with other aces.
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03-28-2011 , 06:30 PM
gotta bet this drawy flop texture harder on th flop obv check turn
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03-28-2011 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by unrealzeal
obv check turn
obv because there's so much consensus about that itt already

(I find it's more helpful when people actually support their answers with, like, reasoning rather than purely conclusory assertions, but w/e)

Last edited by Gadarene; 03-28-2011 at 06:48 PM.
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03-28-2011 , 06:48 PM
there is so much worse in his flop calling range that won't fold to a bigger bet.

also, f balancing

er goes bet moar
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03-28-2011 , 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by desperad0oo7
there is so much worse in his flop calling range that won't fold to a bigger bet.

also, f balancing

er goes bet moar
Edited my previous post to make it clear that I was responding to zeal's turn advice. Agree that flop bet should be bigger.
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03-28-2011 , 07:30 PM
C/c turn and c/f river unimproved, he won't bluff twice and you have a pretty good backup plan if he does have it OTT.
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03-28-2011 , 09:38 PM
why so small on the flop(s!) gad leaving so much room over two streets seeing that we hate any raise otf and with so many scare cards otturns...??

edit: saw your last response a bit late... don wanna rub it but found it a bit small x2
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