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01-30-2012 , 03:23 AM

Kuma

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 15

I have been very active on the table with steals, Btn 18/15 and 11-3bet(over 200hands), but he havent 3-bet me on FT yet.

Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (45,000/90,000 blinds, 16,000 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11738242

Hero (CO): 4,090,780 (45.5 bb)
BTN: 2,214,057 (24.6 bb)
SB: 3,730,592 (41.5 bb)
BB: 4,669,336 (51.9 bb)
MP: 1,679,235 (18.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8

MP folds, Hero raises to 180,000, BTN raises to 450,000, 2 folds, Hero ???

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01-30-2012 , 10:05 AM

Proudwalker

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Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,244

i would flat or fold here cause you have a pretty big stack. Seems a bit weak and but against his 3betting range you can't take anything more than 88.
This is close for me however. If you had 99 i'd do it easier

flatting could wrong most times but if you thing that he's 3betting you because of the loose image then a flat can be justified

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01-30-2012 , 11:57 AM

davethedave2

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Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 4,397

His sizing makes me want to fold but Id struggle to put this down in play and prob cram over the top.

Dont think flatting good - 88 sucks balls oop < 20bbs deep without the initiaitive in a 3bet pot.

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01-30-2012 , 04:18 PM

Kuma

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Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 15

TY both for replies I end up shoving which I think is mistake, since vilain has 25bb and with that stack and size of his 3bet like dave said make you want to fold. I think my range for shoving should be TT+ AK?

ohh and yeah he snap me with TT

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01-30-2012 , 04:23 PM

feedthabeast

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Seems like a trivial shove given positions, stack sizes, and your reads. I don't see what's so scary about his sizing. 2.55x seems standard in position.

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01-30-2012 , 04:43 PM

Kuma

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Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 15

Well I think with his stack he is very unlikely to fold to a shove looks like he have hand strong enough to get comited preflop and based on that I would asume his range for 3bet would be very strong, I think he would shoved preflop the weaker part of his range (55+,A9s+,QJs+,...). But do ppl really 2,5x as a standard with 25bb?

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01-30-2012 , 07:17 PM

voff voff voff

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Originally Posted by feedthabeast

Seems like a trivial shove given positions, stack sizes, and your reads. I don't see what's so scary about his sizing. 2.55x seems standard in position.

This, if he's 3betting 11% before and now he's otb 5 handed against someone who's opening a lot of hands, he's 3betting a pretty wide range. You probably have more fold equity than you think.

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01-31-2012 , 02:02 PM

JoeyJoJo Shabadu

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Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,355

Don't care if he's 3-betting 11% since we don't know your image, which only gives us half the info. If he hasn't 3 bet you before and there's no history, nit fold is fine IMO. If thtis was part of a war i would feel different.

He's not r/folding with that stack.

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02-01-2012 , 03:39 AM

princekuh1o

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Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,134

don't think he's that light here..88 doesn't do so well against his inducing range..better ways to use our stack this late. icm considerations as well.

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02-01-2012 , 12:25 PM

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FortunaMaximus

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Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,666

Raise like that, he's got you pipped more than you're racing.

r/f for sure. too late in tourney to flat, cEV/$EV ugly.

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02-01-2012 , 01:47 PM

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badabamboozle

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Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 767

You could go either way shoving or folding...you should also take the rest of the table into your decision.
When they let you bully the table you can fold in a slightly +EV spot when losing a big portion of your stack would prevent you from further bullying the table.
And also consider if villain made some final tables or not. If not he is probably less likely to 3bet-bluff.

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