Hey

So I am playing at university poker game in a $10 MTT with about 60 players. 9players at the table. The standard in general is pretty poor. Blinds are 400/800 and the short stack (5k)in mid late position calls. The button(31k- bigstack), who I have down as a strong, ABC player calls too and I look at KQ in the big blind (26k - second biggest stack) and check. Oh, by the way, the third biggest stack has around 12/14k at this point so its two bigs vs 7 smallish ones. The pot is 2800.

The flop comes QQ4 and it gets checked all around. Turn is 7 and I check. The short stack now bets 2k at the pot and the button calls. I raise small to 6k-ish and the short stack calls all in. Now the button re-raises to about 18k, committing his tournament(and mine) to the pot.

What do I do?

all in? well, i have a strong/ very strong hand and it is a great opportunity to more than double up.
Fold? With the short stack all in and no money in the sidepot, the big stack decides to tangle with the only player who can cripple him, a player who has shown strength by check raising a player all in who is bound to call. ABC player who plays good cards and hasn't been caught bluffing.

So you decided to post it here to get more ridicule?

[ ] Top set
[ ] Protected pot
[ ] Strong BTN player
[X] Bad laydown

i dont think it was bad laydown, when the chip leader wants to put you all in, he has to be very strong. if he had something like q j unless hes a donkey he proably wouldve just flat called you.
i think kq, a q , 44 or 77 is his only range. so out of those 4 hands 3 got you beat, 1 got you where you can split.
good fold imo

Consistently make folds like this and you are bound to be a losing poker player. Once in a blue moon, maybe.... a big maybe.

$10 MTT college tourney, AUTO CALL, he probably has a weaker kicker. If he had pocket 7's and he was solid he would have bet when checked around to him. I think only pocket 4's (who may have bet) and A,Q have you beat. This looks like a Q,J, Q,10, Q,9 suited on button.

Looked at spoiler, your wording was incorrect. Strong is incorrect, any decent player would have thrown a probe bet in with pocket 7's. Q,Q,4 with three other players in pot in position and he checks 7's, very weak play. You made a good fold this time and by A,B,C I think you meant NIT which means he is too nervous to make this push without the nuts or pretty much close to it and it was probably a very easy read because NIT's don't bet pocket 7's on the flop in this situation either.

[x] level

does it tilt anybody else when people mix up set and trips?

x2

it tilts so many people that i'm now tilted by people who point out their being tilted by it.

ya this

and your fold is the lulz

Think the fold is fine considering it was a protected pot. At best your running into a flush draw that has the ability to get there. Move on to next hand.

I love hands where people slowplay and then fold once their trap is set.

QFbestfacepalmeva

+1

also bet flop
bet turn etc pp

Hey guys, I'm new and I don't know the difference between a set and trips.

Anyone mind educating the 'new guy'?

Thanks!

set, you have a pocket pair preflop and get another card of the same value (55pocket is a set on 5 xx board)
trips QK on QQx board, three of a kind with K kicker.

if you have a set you dont have to be afraid of kicker problems. its obviously better to have 55 on a 5 9 A board than having Q3 in the BB and you check and the board is 5QQ and there is alot of action in front of you. if you have 55 in this situation you only lose vs Q5 and QQ which aint alot of combinations, if you have Q3 you loose (or split) vs Q4+ and 55 which are alot more combinations

I disagree with checking the flop here. If it was very early in the tournament then go for it but what are you trying to accomplish by letting more cards come off the deck? What card is going to come off that will induce bets that won't beat you? Your only hope is the small stack has an A and hits it and makes a desperation shove hoping no one has a Q. If the big stack catches an A is he really going to forget about the Qs out there? What you really don't want at this stage of a tournament is to throw away chips on hands that aren't showdowns IMHO. It's not like you need to double up here. A half pot bet may induce the short stack to shove as people often bluff at boards like this one.

Maybe I'm wrong, I usually am.

+2

if you were planning to raise fold, why not just call the 2k on the turn?

also i couldn't figure out what your stack was(ill admit i spent about 5 seconds looking for that info). If you had ~12-14k, and there is an ante, i'm shipping KQ in the BB. If you had 30k ish. I'd prolly make it 2k, hope the 5k guy ships and i can reship 30k if the other 30k stack calls the 5k.

It tilts the **** out of me...

How can you ever be in a good spot in a tournament once you fold hands like this? You'll just blind off, nitting yourself to death sooner or later...

i raise to like 3K pre and laugh when the SS flats for 60% of his stack the button would probably call this. . . .then lead the flop and win the pot

as played pf bet this flop every time

don't fold the turn unless by good player you mean 93 year old man wearing suspenders.