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07-02-2008 , 01:18 PM

noname6520

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my hand is essentially a bluff catcher to his river raise right?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG (t1490)
MP1 (t1670)
MP2 (t2650)
CO (t3340)
Button (t1450)
SB (t1430)
Hero (t1470)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4

, 3

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UTG calls t30, 1 fold, MP2 calls t30, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t120) J

, 5

, 7

(4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: (t120) 6

(4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t120, UTG calls t120, MP2 folds, SB folds.

River: (t360) Q

(2 players)
Hero bets t240, UTG raises to t720, Hero?

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07-02-2008 , 01:21 PM

RedBullMET

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its almost a certainty you have the best hand. just shove

if he happened to have 89, so be it.
doubt he has 48. so there really is only the nutz that beats u.

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07-02-2008 , 01:23 PM

craven

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grunch

shove imo, punch the cat and reload if he has 89.

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07-02-2008 , 01:23 PM

anytwofine

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Why would u fold?

Only hand that beats you is 98, 84 and hes range includes many many more hands than that.

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07-02-2008 , 01:25 PM

Dekk

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Without serious reads, i can t fold here. UTG had slowplayed a set most of the time. Push. If he had 89o, nh.

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07-02-2008 , 01:26 PM

sootedgapper

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So you put him on exactly 98? That's the only hand that beats you, he doesn't limp 84s utg imo. He has sets/two pairs enough here for a call to be good, the only question is whether to push or just smoothcall iyam.

I'm nitty, so i think just a call is in order.

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07-02-2008 , 01:27 PM

Hirle

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Uhm don't know what buyin this is, but you're beat by 89 and 48... how does villain ever call UTG with either of those? I get it in and get called by a strangly played set or AQ/JQ.

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07-02-2008 , 01:33 PM

sootedgapper

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89 and 48... how does villain ever call UTG with either of those?

84 is very very unlikely, but randoms love their sooted connectors from any position so we cannot rule out 98s

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07-02-2008 , 01:42 PM

noname6520

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5 dollar bi. 84 is a possibility. How is everyone putting villain on a set when he doesnt raise a three straight turn?

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07-02-2008 , 01:46 PM

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sootedgapper

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Originally Posted by noname6520

How is everyone putting villain on a set when he doesnt raise a three straight turn?

CAUSE SLOWPLAYING IS SO MUCH FUN AND EARNS A LOT OF CHIPS

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07-02-2008 , 01:47 PM

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slowplaying is fun... im a donk though and i ship the river

Last edited by brian0721; 07-02-2008 at 01:47 PM. Reason: busted flush draw

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07-02-2008 , 03:15 PM

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Heaven

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Originally Posted by noname6520

5 dollar bi. 84 is a possibility. How is everyone putting villain on a set when he doesnt raise a three straight turn?

Feels like this sentence is saying two things. Villain is bad, and villain is good. Make up your mind. If you think villain are bad enough to limp 84 UTG, why do we think he would raise turn with a set with a straight draw? Bad players love slowplaying.

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07-02-2008 , 03:17 PM

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th1986

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i prob wimp out and call but shoving river sounds ok to and might b better
can't imagine folding tho.

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07-02-2008 , 03:22 PM

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EzplusEV

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ez shove?

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07-02-2008 , 05:51 PM

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Dr_Jeckyl_00

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I would not fold there. I doubt utg has 89. I might expect to see QT-AQ, Q5s-Q7s or maybe a set to be raising you... so shove away.

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07-02-2008 , 05:53 PM

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lukedegaris

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Get it in there every time. Calling is nitty. With only two, unrealistic, hands beatin you I like the shove.

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07-02-2008 , 07:10 PM

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BradleyT

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Originally Posted by noname6520

my hand is essentially the nuts to his river raise right?

YES.

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07-02-2008 , 07:35 PM

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noname6520

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ok thanks guys gotta stop nitting it up i suppose

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07-02-2008 , 08:02 PM

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NozeCandy

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Yeah this is shove city.

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