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06-20-2010 , 04:55 PM

2f4u

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This is early stage, rly no info bout villian

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saw flop | saw showdown

UTG (t2620)
UTG+1 (t3895)
MP1 (t5825)
MP2 (t865)
CO (t2565)
Hero (Button) (t3610)
SB (t3200)
BB (t3180)

Hero's M: 60.17

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9

, J

1 fold, UTG+1 calls t40, 3 folds, Hero calls t40, 1 fold, BB checks
I limped in cause it's the button and 40 chips. I wanted to openraise, but... so I limped.
Flop: (t140) 8

, 10

, Q

(3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets t120, Hero raises to t680, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls t560

Turn: (t1500) 7

(2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t1500, UTG+1 calls t1500

River: (t4500) 9

(2 players)
UTG+1 bets t1675 (All-In), Hero said "what? u r ******* ******** beach, KJ ?" and tank

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06-20-2010 , 05:00 PM

ftn_chris

Pooh-Bah

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way too big of a raise on the flop. too big the turn. dont fold the river.

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06-20-2010 , 05:07 PM

2f4u

adept

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 748

why 2 big ? this is Double Deuce - they will call it! gogogo value!

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06-20-2010 , 05:25 PM

I_LI_Jl

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 530

I would say way too big as well on both flop and turn, but you got called so what do I know.

On the river, you are basically pot committed, so snap call.

Looking at the numbers, even if you can only split the pot (although I think there is some chance of a missed FD puting you on 2 pair) you have to call 1675 to win 3k, or close to 2 to 1. So unless for some ridiculous reason you think your opponent has KJ more than 67% of the time this is still a call, even if you can only split.

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06-20-2010 , 05:29 PM

2f4u

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Originally Posted by I_LI_Jl

you have to call 1675 to win 3k

Not 3k. 6k

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06-20-2010 , 05:30 PM

Loretta8

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call, not close

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06-20-2010 , 05:33 PM

22GB

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Originally Posted by 2f4u

This is early stage

really i thought this is late stage.

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06-20-2010 , 05:36 PM

22GB

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standarD call and the raise is okay when you think the villain will call.

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06-20-2010 , 05:38 PM

2f4u

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Originally Posted by 22GB

really i thought this is late stage.

that's why I decided to explain. to make it easier 4 u

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06-20-2010 , 05:39 PM

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22GB

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Originally Posted by 2f4u

that's why I decided to explain. to make it easier 4 u

are you for real,dude.

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06-20-2010 , 05:45 PM

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I_LI_Jl

grinder

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Originally Posted by 2f4u

Not 3k. 6k

I meant if he can only split, although it's slightly less than 3k (more like 2.25 to 1.6 since you only get half of what you call with back), but I would call if this was 1 : 1, so snap.

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06-20-2010 , 05:52 PM

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pokerkid2308

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Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 347

Turn: (t1500) 7

(2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t1500, UTG+1 calls t1500

why a psb w/ the nuts???

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06-20-2010 , 06:08 PM

#13

2f4u

adept

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1. What is psb ?
2. Heavy drawning board
3. He called huge c/r, he would call huge bet, cause he is an idiot (come on, this is double deuce).

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06-20-2010 , 06:15 PM

#14

pokerkid2308

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pot sized bet, and its not a huge drawing board, the only things we're scared of now are diamonds,K,A

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06-20-2010 , 06:16 PM

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2f4u

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Originally Posted by pokerkid2308

the only things we're scared of now are diamonds,K,A

Yeah, that is what I call huge drawning board
And, w8. How bout 9 ? not scary enough ?

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06-20-2010 , 06:18 PM

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pokerkid2308

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Originally Posted by 2f4u

Yeah, that is what I call huge drawning board

says the guy who doesn't know what a psb is..

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06-20-2010 , 06:23 PM

#17

2f4u

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Originally Posted by pokerkid2308

says the guy who doesn't know what a psb is..

well, for past 2 years you the first who call that "psb". Everyone call that "betpot".
And, explain please, what is huge drawning board is in your world?

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06-20-2010 , 06:25 PM

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pokerkid2308

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Originally Posted by 2f4u

well, for past 2 years you the first who call that "psb". Everyone call that "betpot".

lol and who calls it "betpot"?

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06-20-2010 , 06:41 PM

#19

RLOG

old hand

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Is this a joke?

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06-20-2010 , 06:50 PM

#20

pompeypoker

Pooh-Bah

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so you're not open to criticism on the streets you played bad, you're only concerned about the lolobviousdecision street, interesting.

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06-20-2010 , 07:33 PM

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RinconWoah

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Eventhough its a drawy board you still bet too much on the flop. You are loosing value by taking people off top pair, midpair, weak draws; because you're afraid of the flush draw. Raise less and play some poker.

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06-21-2010 , 05:38 AM

#22

2f4u

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thanks for replies about river
P.S. guys, u never played double deuce, did you? THEY WOULD CALL EVERYTHING!

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06-21-2010 , 05:40 AM

#23

2f4u

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Originally Posted by pompeypoker

so you're not open to criticism on the streets you played bad, you're only concerned about the lolobviousdecision street, interesting.

why I played bad ? they WILL call with draw ALWAYS.
Am I played bad by forcing gim put in more chips when he is drawning ?

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06-21-2010 , 05:52 AM

#24

betgo

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Flop seems OK on the action board. I would probably make the turn a little less, as there is not that much left for the river after you pot it.

Lol at tanking the river. The a snap snap snap call.

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06-21-2010 , 05:54 AM

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ivantran

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You're assuming he's on a draw. We don't want to blow the "idiots" off top pair, two pair or whatever. You'll be surprised even at the Double Deuce people still find folds especially since your hand is super-polarized and at these levels it's usually "100%" the nuts.

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