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02-15-2017 , 01:50 PM
Local $80 Donkament, play has been pretty passive and we are on the final table bubble. Only top 4 pay
Blinds 400/800 no ante yet
Hero 13,300, was one of the more active players the first few levels and has been in shove/fold mode for the last 20 minutes. Picked up a lot of dead money as I haven't been called and am now a top 3 stack at the table. Has not gone to showdown with either villain
V1 13,100, pretty passive and capable of folding top pair
V2 8,800, passive and peels a lot, usually ends up folding on the turn or river


Folded to Hero on CO, raises to 1,800 with KcKd
V1 on Button calls with an almost identical stack
V2 in SB calls and BB folds

Pot is 6,200
Flop: 10,5,3 all Clubs. Hero has Kc
SB check
Hero bets 4,000
V1 calls
V2 shoves remaining 7,000
Hero shoves remaining 7,500
V1 calls
V1 shows Ac8c
V2 shows Jc9c

Pretty much dead on the flop without runner runner for a boat....

Any way we can find a fold on the flop??? Even with how passive villains are we have an overpair and the Kc. Is this a shove pre with ~16BB?
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02-15-2017 , 05:52 PM
Why are you betting that flop? You'll only get calls from hands that have you beat here. I'd rather check/shove or check/call. Not that the result would be any different, but you're turning a good hand into a bluff imo.
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02-15-2017 , 06:45 PM
We have an overpair and draw to the second nuts why not bet? A lower club or 10 could give us action and there are lots of AX combos with Ac where he would be drawing...
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02-15-2017 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bane_Posting
We have an overpair and draw to the second nuts why not bet? A lower club or 10 could give us action and there are lots of AX combos with Ac where he would be drawing...
Have to agree with OP. Loads of worse hands get it in here, the nut flush is literally the only hand we are terrible against, and they aren't even 20bb deep!! Stick it in, gg!
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02-15-2017 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DutchCourage
Why are you betting that flop? You'll only get calls from hands that have you beat here.
Lol wut? You think Ac x is going anywhere? Passive live villains could show up with top pair, over pairs. We're not even in that bad shape vs 2-pair or sets.
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