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flatting or folding KQ from the SB flatting or folding KQ from the SB

05-02-2014 , 09:32 AM
Villain played 32/7/0 on 66 Hands.
I had a lagy image.

So first of all as every player does, I hate playing oop and I am nor closing the action.. I am not sure if flatting KQ after an LP Raise from the SB is that good,

Is folding KQ from the SB a better move? I'm neihter that sure if the flop raise was good, maybe I have to do some pot control with a flat

Thanks fo your answers

    Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (400/800 blinds, 75 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #26473571

    BB: 24,134 (30.2 bb)
    UTG+1: 30,813 (38.5 bb)
    UTG+2: 16,049 (20.1 bb)
    MP1: 14,904 (18.6 bb)
    MP2: 24,143 (30.2 bb)
    MP3: 9,340 (11.7 bb)
    CO: 53,832 (67.3 bb)
    BTN: 10,173 (12.7 bb)
    Hero (SB): 21,220 (26.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with K Q
    5 folds, CO raises to 1,600, BTN folds, Hero calls 1,200, BB folds

    Flop: (4,675) K 3 2 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets 800, Hero raises to 2,400, CO calls 1,600

    Turn: (9,475) 6 (2 players)
    Hero bets 5,590, CO calls 5,590

    River: (20,655) A (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets 3,200, Hero calls 3,200




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    flatting or folding KQ from the SB Quote
    05-02-2014 , 11:04 AM
    Tough hand to play... For me it would depend on how your opponent plays post flop. Looks like he's pretty tight. Since he is in the CO he could be looser, so i wouldn't mind calling in the SB if i knew i had a good post flop advantage and if i could easily steal the pot on the Flop or the Turn. I would even consider reraise all in to steal if i have seen him open and fold to a raise before or if he's opening loose in late position and folding to a raise. 25 BB is a good reshove stack but you need good read and good position to do so. I don't think there is anything wrong with folding also. Your opponent is tight and you could easily be dominated (AA, KK, QQ, AK, AQ)

    It's a very good flop for you, In that spot i wouldn't mind just calling. He most likely missed and there is nothing for him to call a ch\raise with. Unless he has a flush draw or a King, AA or a set he will fold. The ch\raise look pretty darn strong. Might be a situation where he folds when behind and calls when ahead.

    For me, once he called the Flop Ch\Raise, a big red light goes off. This is where a good read also comes in play. Does he call a big reraise on the flop with second best hand? Does he play Draws passively? Has he been bluffing? Does he like to call the flop with very weak hands? Because the only hand i see you beat here are hands like TT, JJ, QQ, maybe Flush draw.

    Then on the turn, i have no idea where we are at. Its a huge bet, it is a very odd card and a very odd play. He is tight and not a maniac... Me, i would fold because he is tight and not a maniac. I feel like you are either WAY ahead, or WAY behind.

    Last edited by Gladiatoranc; 05-02-2014 at 11:12 AM.
    flatting or folding KQ from the SB Quote
    05-02-2014 , 09:45 PM
    I would much rather prefer to 3b pre than raise the flop.
    flatting or folding KQ from the SB Quote
    05-02-2014 , 11:54 PM
    vs fish I wouldn't 3bet pre. Pretty safe to say from this guys flop play he's a fish.

    I play the hand the same as you did. Wouldn't check/raise a normal bet but guy bet 2x minraise which is ridiculously small.
    flatting or folding KQ from the SB Quote
    05-03-2014 , 05:52 AM
    with ~20bb i would probably jam pre..

    26bb is a little bit too much so i like the call.. dont wanna be 3b/folding that strong of a hand..
    on the flop a raise is good imo however i wouldnt use it as a default in that spot.
    otr i would prefer a small blockbet, with x/calling that size he probably showed you Ax of clubs?
    flatting or folding KQ from the SB Quote
    05-03-2014 , 05:57 AM
    pre is w.e i guess; flat is fine, but post is ugly..

    flop size might be ok, little more prob good, turn is too big, river check seems pretty hopeful cause if he bets a real size you feel really silly..
    flatting or folding KQ from the SB Quote
    05-03-2014 , 07:56 AM
    you could have 3 bet pre flop so far ...
    flatting or folding KQ from the SB Quote
    05-03-2014 , 09:48 PM
    any reads on villian post flop? their sizing is really weak , i think its rather unlikely for villian to bet so weak with a hand like AK , KJ and KK.

    villian may bet small here with hands like mid pair 77+ and against a weak timid player raising the flop with the intentions of gii ott is fine.

    readless i'd just call otf and re-evaluate ott imo.

    when villian calls your raise , i'd check ott and if villian bets big i might consider letting go of our hand.
    flatting or folding KQ from the SB Quote
    05-03-2014 , 11:12 PM
    Flatting is fine. I actually think that folding isn't terrible either vs this guy

    Quote:
    Villain played 32/7/0 on 66 Hands.
    I'm certainly not gonna 3bet this hand vs this guy, tho, even if he's opening in CO. His RFI is just really low.

    I'm flatting flop too. Not a lot of scarecards ott when we have Kc. An offsuite A is pretty much the only card that we'd hate to see.
    flatting or folding KQ from the SB Quote
    05-04-2014 , 05:24 PM
    Quote:
    For me, once he called the Flop Ch\Raise, a big red light goes off. This is where a good read also comes in play. Does he call a big reraise on the flop with second best hand? Does he play Draws passively? Has he been bluffing? Does he like to call the flop with very weak hands? Because the only hand i see you beat here are hands like TT, JJ, QQ, maybe Flush draw.

    Then on the turn, i have no idea where we are at. Its a huge bet, it is a very odd card and a very odd play. He is tight and not a maniac... Me, i would fold because he is tight and not a maniac. I feel like you are either WAY ahead, or WAY behind.
    sorry got confused here... Thought Villain donk bet the flop. So forget about what i said past the turn. Anyways lots of of good answer in this thread. I think you've got a lot to think about.
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