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10-31-2008 , 05:26 AM

pipedreams402

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 22

utg uber donk and had always opened for min. Folded thinking he was never folding to a shove. Might be a little nitty. thoughts?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $30+$3 Tournament, 4000/8000 Blinds 800 Ante (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (MP) (t77714)
Button (t758455)
SB (t337423)
BB (t136778)
UTG (t795630)

Hero's M: 4.86

Preflop: Hero is MP with 6

, 6

UTG raises to t16000, 4 folds

Total pot: t24000

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10-31-2008 , 05:43 AM

behemoth

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Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,063

The only real argument for folding is that there are people left to act. If you could know that he was the only one to call you, shove this as hard as you can.

Missing spots like these will keep you from going deep in shorty situations.

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10-31-2008 , 06:43 AM

Tilter

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,200

You have 9 BB and there is an overlay to the pot with extra 2BB from Antes+Blinds. He'll likely never fold 90% of the time, but you need to gamble NOW if you expect to contend at all.

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10-31-2008 , 10:50 AM

kimos123

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,866

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Originally Posted by Tilter

You have 9 BB and there is an overlay to the pot with extra 2BB from Antes+Blinds. He'll likely never fold 90% of the time, but you need to gamble NOW if you expect to contend at all.

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10-31-2008 , 10:54 AM

areaman

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,213

isnt it better to find a spot to open push any two rather than get it in with 66 here?

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10-31-2008 , 12:36 PM

pipedreams402

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Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 22

That is kinda what i was wondering. I think i should have gambled but I was thinking at the time I would rather be first in. My friends I was with had some different thoughts also.

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10-31-2008 , 03:16 PM

JoeyJoJo Shabadu

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Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,355

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Originally Posted by areaman

isnt it better to find a spot to open push any two rather than get it in with 66 here?

15k is nice if we steal blinds with ATC (and we need that once an orbit minimum), but we need to double to contend. and to double we need to gamble. And getting it in with flip+ is a good gamble.

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10-31-2008 , 03:25 PM

JesseB_11

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Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,301

You actually have some FE so theres no way im folding this.

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10-31-2008 , 07:43 PM

just_mo

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Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 8,700

Thing is we didn't think he had any fold equity. This donk had a lot of chips so I doubt he's folding anything he opens to that small of a shove. I thought it would be better to wait for a spot to open shove, but I guess most people think the sixes are good enough to get it in based on the strength of the hand.

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