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final table bounty builder 11$/3rd place. Some hands for review. final table bounty builder 11$/3rd place. Some hands for review.

01-19-2017 , 07:13 AM
Hello guys, posting some hands from yesterdays session where I had some deep runs. Ended on top 3rd in this one. Also got a 18th place in an KO 5.5$ where I did pretty well to the end and some mistakes/bad play happen.

When I go through my hands i see some tendencies that often occurs where I run deep and can get to passive, I dont 3-bet, I just call of the initial bet and get beaten by thrash hands since I didn't put enough pressure on them pre -flop. And that I don't push around the small stacks to when I'm the chip leader at the table.

Out of the 551 hands we played in this tourney I picked out a few ones that i'm unsure what I should have done in certain spots, And I do not post monster hands in here since I feel that they mostly play them self.

As always I would love your feedback!

Hand one: Here I pick up pocket 7, I hand that I don't like, but its to good to fold. Sometimes I call, sometimes I raise with this hand. But my question is pre-flop. Is it better to just 3-bet it or is flating ok?

    Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (70/140 blinds, 21 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: 3,943 (28.2 bb)
    BB: 5,920 (42.3 bb)
    UTG+1: 3,598 (25.7 bb)
    UTG+2: 1,762 (12.6 bb)
    MP1: 4,781 (34.2 bb)
    MP2: 7,337 (52.4 bb)
    MP3: 6,846 (48.9 bb)
    CO: 6,227 (44.5 bb)
    Hero (BTN): 9,638 (68.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 7
    3 folds, MP2 raises to 350, 2 folds, Hero calls 350, SB calls 280, BB folds

    Flop: (1,379) 4 T J (3 players)
    SB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets 840, SB folds, MP2 calls 840

    Turn: (3,059) 7 (2 players)
    MP2 checks, Hero bets 1,120, MP2 calls 1,120

    River: (5,299) 7 (2 players)
    MP2 checks, Hero bets 3,000, MP2 folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: 5,299 pot
    Final Board: 4 T J 7 7
    MP2 mucked and lost (-2,331 net)
    Hero mucked 7 7 and won 5,299 (2,968 net)


    Hand 2: One player goes all inn and Dealer and small blind calls. I have a bad hand, but the price seems so good can I justify a call here in hope to pick up a monster or should I just fold it?

      Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (200/400 blinds, 60 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: 27,733 (69.3 bb)
      Hero (BB): 17,178 (42.9 bb)
      UTG+1: 27,784 (69.5 bb)
      UTG+2: 2,078 (5.2 bb)
      MP1: 7,537 (18.8 bb)
      MP2: 5,848 (14.6 bb)
      MP3: 28,504 (71.3 bb)
      CO: 6,355 (15.9 bb)
      BTN: 20,142 (50.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 J
      UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to 2,018 and is all-in, 4 folds, BTN calls 2,018, SB calls 1,818, Hero calls 1,618

      Flop: (8,612) 6 A 3 (4 players, 1 is all-in)
      SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 4,306, 2 folds

      Turn: (8,612) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: (8,612) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: 8,612 pot
      Final Board: 6 A 3 3 6
      SB mucked and lost (-2,078 net)
      Hero mucked 5 J and lost (-2,078 net)
      UTG+2 showed K J and lost (-2,078 net)
      BTN showed Q A and won 8,612 (6,534 net)


      Hand 3: Is this a OK fold or should I just Shove? Both players to my left is very aggressive and opens up a lot of pots.

        Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 90 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        SB: 41,772 (69.6 bb)
        BB: 8,095 (13.5 bb)
        UTG+1: 7,337 (12.2 bb)
        UTG+2: 23,684 (39.5 bb)
        MP1: 10,611 (17.7 bb)
        MP2: 18,256 (30.4 bb)
        MP3: 48,900 (81.5 bb)
        Hero (CO): 9,630 (16.1 bb)
        BTN: 30,175 (50.3 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is CO with A J
        3 folds, MP2 raises to 1,320, MP3 raises to 3,600, 5 folds

        Spoiler:
        Results: 4,350 pot
        MP3 mucked and won 4,350 (2,940 net)


        Hand 4: It get folded to me on the dealer button and I wake up with a connected hand and have around 30 bbs. in situations like this i'm not sure what I should do. Should I raise or is it ok to fold? Sometimes I raise and sometimes I just fold it, how do you approach situations like this if you have between 30-60 bbs?

          Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (900/1,800 blinds, 270 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

          SB: 51,161 (28.4 bb)
          BB: 81,251 (45.1 bb)
          UTG+1: 50,502 (28.1 bb)
          UTG+2: 30,148 (16.7 bb)
          MP1: 53,933 (30 bb)
          MP2: 81,839 (45.5 bb)
          MP3: 62,916 (35 bb)
          CO: 9,399 (5.2 bb)
          Hero (BTN): 56,560 (31.4 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BTN with 5 7
          8 folds

          Spoiler:
          Results: 4,230 pot
          BB mucked and won 4,230 (3,060 net)



          Hand 5: This hand I get very confused with his re-raise so I just decide to call and the hand get kinda out of control. Should i 3-bet him or what is the best option on flop? On the turn should I lead? And what to do on river? check ok? I feel that I lost a ton of value in this hand....

            Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (3,000/6,000 blinds, 900 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

            SB: 456,983 (76.2 bb)
            Hero (BB): 533,573 (88.9 bb)
            UTG+2: 215,680 (35.9 bb)
            MP1: 217,396 (36.2 bb)
            MP2: 274,362 (45.7 bb)
            MP3: 232,279 (38.7 bb)
            CO: 99,896 (16.6 bb)
            BTN: 178,901 (29.8 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is BB with J Q
            3 folds, MP3 raises to 12,000, 2 folds, SB calls 9,000, Hero calls 6,000

            Flop: (43,200) 8 J Q (3 players)
            SB checks, Hero checks, MP3 bets 18,000, SB raises to 36,000, Hero calls 36,000, MP3 calls 18,000

            Turn: (151,200) A (3 players)
            SB checks, Hero checks, MP3 bets 18,000, SB calls 18,000, Hero calls 18,000

            River: (205,200) K (3 players)
            SB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks

            Spoiler:
            Results: 205,200 pot
            Final Board: 8 J Q A K
            SB showed 9 A and lost (-66,900 net)
            Hero showed J Q and won 205,200 (138,300 net)
            MP3 mucked 6 8 and lost (-66,900 net)


            hand 6: In this hand Should I lead on the turn, normally this guys bets to try to get me off my hands. My plan was to re-raise him here but he checked it down? I remember this hand very good because of the donk call on the river, I was sure he was bluffing and I wanted his bounty, afterwards when I get re-raised here I should just call instead of putting him all inn.

              Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (3,000/6,000 blinds, 900 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

              SB: 201,892 (33.6 bb)
              BB: 173,501 (28.9 bb)
              UTG+2: 252,387 (42.1 bb)
              Hero (MP1): 680,573 (113.4 bb)
              MP2: 201,280 (33.5 bb)
              MP3: 196,252 (32.7 bb)
              CO: 267,162 (44.5 bb)
              BTN: 236,023 (39.3 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q K
              UTG+2 folds, Hero raises to 12,000, 3 folds, BTN calls 12,000, 2 folds

              Flop: (40,200) 3 6 8 (2 players)
              Hero checks, BTN bets 18,000, Hero calls 18,000

              Turn: (76,200) K (2 players)
              Hero checks, BTN checks

              River: (76,200) T (2 players)
              Hero bets 38,100, BTN raises to 76,200, Hero raises to 649,673 and is all-in, BTN calls 128,923 and is all-in

              Spoiler:
              Results: 486,446 pot
              Final Board: 3 6 8 K T
              Hero showed Q K and lost (-236,023 net)
              BTN showed 3 A and won 486,446 (250,423 net)
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              01-19-2017 , 10:56 AM
              Hand 1) 77, you can raise/limp or flat. It comes down to your reads on the vil and how comfortable your post flop play is. As played I hate the flop bet tbh. I would also check the turn, not many river cards that we're are scared by and sometimes it allows villain to bluff us. Obviously value betting the river.

              Hand 2) yeah it's a call. It's only an extra 4bb for you, not a massive damage to your stack size and You're getting 5 to 1 when you're not including the bounty, with the bounty this makes it an easy call.

              Hand 3) probs folding, you have 0 FE against the 3bet with our short stack and bounty, and I think you're beaten/flipping more often then you're dominating. You have breathing space to wait for a better spot.

              Hand 4) depends on the players in the blinds. If they're stations then fold, if they're nitty/normal then it's a fine hand to open. It's in my BtN opening range when I have an average stack but I am quite loose. It can flop well but this mainly comes down to your reads and your post flop skills.

              Hand 5) like the flat the 3bet on the flop. I would lead the turn once the sb checks as Ah opens up many more draws and I think that MP is going to check most of the time since sb has 3b flop then checked turn so you're giving a free card too often here and missing some value from draws or certain Ax hands. River is an easy check.

              Hand 6) fine open. I am Cbetting the flop for sure, I think they're going to fold majority of their range that they flat on the BtN here. Betting the turn, maybe missing value if we check from PP or worse K, second pairs. With the river you have multiple ways to play it. You can either check or bet. I think I would lean to check/call anything less than 40k. When we bet I'm not sure what's going to call that we beat. As played just flat the min raise. I would even lead to fold because it literally screams the nuts. Certainly not 3b jam on the river. Very spewy.

              Last edited by Glaciem; 01-19-2017 at 11:16 AM.
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              01-20-2017 , 05:03 AM
              Quote:
              Originally Posted by Glaciem
              Hand 1) 77, you can raise/limp or flat. It comes down to your reads on the vil and how comfortable your post flop play is. As played I hate the flop bet tbh. I would also check the turn, not many river cards that we're are scared by and sometimes it allows villain to bluff us. Obviously value betting the river.

              Hand 2) yeah it's a call. It's only an extra 4bb for you, not a massive damage to your stack size and You're getting 5 to 1 when you're not including the bounty, with the bounty this makes it an easy call.

              Hand 3) probs folding, you have 0 FE against the 3bet with our short stack and bounty, and I think you're beaten/flipping more often then you're dominating. You have breathing space to wait for a better spot.

              Hand 4) depends on the players in the blinds. If they're stations then fold, if they're nitty/normal then it's a fine hand to open. It's in my BtN opening range when I have an average stack but I am quite loose. It can flop well but this mainly comes down to your reads and your post flop skills.

              Hand 5) like the flat the 3bet on the flop. I would lead the turn once the sb checks as Ah opens up many more draws and I think that MP is going to check most of the time since sb has 3b flop then checked turn so you're giving a free card too often here and missing some value from draws or certain Ax hands. River is an easy check.

              Hand 6) fine open. I am Cbetting the flop for sure, I think they're going to fold majority of their range that they flat on the BtN here. Betting the turn, maybe missing value if we check from PP or worse K, second pairs. With the river you have multiple ways to play it. You can either check or bet. I think I would lean to check/call anything less than 40k. When we bet I'm not sure what's going to call that we beat. As played just flat the min raise. I would even lead to fold because it literally screams the nuts. Certainly not 3b jam on the river. Very spewy.
              1. I thought a bet would be good here, but since its two over cards its better to just check it? I didn't have any information on Villain since it was pretty earlie in the tournament and he been transferred from an another table.

              2. Ok, thanks man

              3. Yeah I thought so as well, but have seen Tonkaaa just push it in simular situations, but then again he his alot better then me when it comes to reads and ranges of people he play against.

              4. Here the people where very tight, so I was thinking about a raise here. I feel that my post flop skills is ok and not really great.

              5. I didn't quite get it, should i 3 bet on the flop or is my call ok ? Yeah I also lean towards a raise on turn.

              6. Yeah, c-bet seems a lot better, but if I c-bet the flop here should i barrel again then on turn?
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              01-22-2017 , 11:03 AM
              Hand 1: I def think both the option to 3-bet and flat are fine. Personally leaning more towards 3-betting. Totally up to you, i think.

              Hand 2: It's a bounty builder, calling here is great imo.

              Hand 3: It might be a spot were the one aggro is taking advantage of the other, but imo AJo is to weak here. Easy fold.

              Hand 4: Depends on the blinds, if you have seen a tendency for them to 3-bet big alot and put you in awkward spots i think a limp is fine, but i would probably never fold 75s on the button when unopened.

              Hand 5: Def one of the weirdest things i have ever seen. I think a 3-bet on the flop should be highly considered. Like would he really min check/raise with the nuts there.
              You really lose to a set of 8's only, but when you 3-bet and get 4-bet it's just over and you lost your 3-bet.
              Now you only give them the chance to catch up with hands like AQ,QT etc.
              I tought the min check raise was likely a smaller to pair combo or 88. So 3-betting to extracting value from the combos you are ahead of or to know for sure you wont lose more in the hand is fine imo.

              Hand 6: Well. This one is also a weird one.
              I think you could c-bet here also, but check calling is fine aswell. You are under repped on the turn when you take that line and hit your top pair.
              When you do i think leading the turn and betting the river for value on a good card is a fine line to take.
              Instead you decide to keep under repping your hand, maybe losing some value but it's fine.
              On the river i like that you take initiative and lead out given that you likely have the best hand.
              Seeing that both KT and a flush draw would very likely keep betting on the turn.
              When he raises you however it's a clear fold or call spot.
              You gain absolutely nothing by 3-bet shoving KQo here.
              He folds all his bluffs and would never raise you with a worse made hand like KJ etc.
              So you are in the spot were if your read says he's bluffing you call
              If your read says he have it you fold.

              My read on the hand (pre spoiler) would be to call as explained above with the flush draw and KT betting the turn.
              So the only hand in the range i gave him was T8 versus that he has mostly bluffs and you should call.

              On the flipside, seeing how many of these i get to respond to were you go really deep means that you are def doing alot of things correctly and should be very proud of yourself.
              Hope you eliminate the really big mistakes (like the river 3-bet in hand 6) and go somewhere with this card game.

              Hope this was helpful
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              01-22-2017 , 12:56 PM
              Hand 1: I def think both the option to 3-bet and flat are fine. Personally leaning more towards 3-betting. Totally up to you, i think.

              Hand 2: It's a bounty builder, calling here is great imo.

              Hand 3: It might be a spot were the one aggro is taking advantage of the other, but imo AJo is to weak here. Easy fold.

              Hand 4: Depends on the blinds, if you have seen a tendency for them to 3-bet big alot and put you in awkward spots i think a limp is fine, but i would probably never fold 75s on the button when unopened.

              Hand 5: Def one of the weirdest things i have ever seen. I think a 3-bet on the flop should be highly considered. Like would he really min check/raise with the nuts there.
              You really lose to a set of 8's only, but when you 3-bet and get 4-bet it's just over and you lost your 3-bet.
              Now you only give them the chance to catch up with hands like AQ,QT etc.
              I tought the min check raise was likely a smaller to pair combo or 88. So 3-betting to extracting value from the combos you are ahead of or to know for sure you wont lose more in the hand is fine imo.

              Hand 6: Well. This one is also a weird one.
              I think you could c-bet here also, but check calling is fine aswell. You are under repped on the turn when you take that line and hit your top pair.
              When you do i think leading the turn and betting the river for value on a good card is a fine line to take.
              Instead you decide to keep under repping your hand, maybe losing some value but it's fine.
              On the river i like that you take initiative and lead out given that you likely have the best hand.
              Seeing that both KT and a flush draw would very likely keep betting on the turn.
              When he raises you however it's a clear fold or call spot.
              You gain absolutely nothing by 3-bet shoving KQo here.
              He folds all his bluffs and would never raise you with a worse made hand like KJ etc.
              So you are in the spot were if your read says he's bluffing you call
              If your read says he have it you fold.

              My read on the hand (pre spoiler) would be to call as explained above with the flush draw and KT betting the turn.
              So the only hand in the range i gave him was T8 versus that he has mostly bluffs and you should call.

              On the flipside, seeing how many of these i get to respond to were you go really deep means that you are def doing alot of things correctly and should be very proud of yourself.
              Hope you eliminate the really big mistakes (like the river 3-bet in hand 6) and go somewhere with this card game.

              Hope this was helpful
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              01-23-2017 , 06:34 AM
              Quote:
              Originally Posted by BrisenKu
              Hand 1: I def think both the option to 3-bet and flat are fine. Personally leaning more towards 3-betting. Totally up to you, i think.

              Hand 2: It's a bounty builder, calling here is great imo.

              Hand 3: It might be a spot were the one aggro is taking advantage of the other, but imo AJo is to weak here. Easy fold.

              Hand 4: Depends on the blinds, if you have seen a tendency for them to 3-bet big alot and put you in awkward spots i think a limp is fine, but i would probably never fold 75s on the button when unopened.

              Hand 5: Def one of the weirdest things i have ever seen. I think a 3-bet on the flop should be highly considered. Like would he really min check/raise with the nuts there.
              You really lose to a set of 8's only, but when you 3-bet and get 4-bet it's just over and you lost your 3-bet.
              Now you only give them the chance to catch up with hands like AQ,QT etc.
              I tought the min check raise was likely a smaller to pair combo or 88. So 3-betting to extracting value from the combos you are ahead of or to know for sure you wont lose more in the hand is fine imo.

              Hand 6: Well. This one is also a weird one.
              I think you could c-bet here also, but check calling is fine aswell. You are under repped on the turn when you take that line and hit your top pair.
              When you do i think leading the turn and betting the river for value on a good card is a fine line to take.
              Instead you decide to keep under repping your hand, maybe losing some value but it's fine.
              On the river i like that you take initiative and lead out given that you likely have the best hand.
              Seeing that both KT and a flush draw would very likely keep betting on the turn.
              When he raises you however it's a clear fold or call spot.
              You gain absolutely nothing by 3-bet shoving KQo here.
              He folds all his bluffs and would never raise you with a worse made hand like KJ etc.
              So you are in the spot were if your read says he's bluffing you call
              If your read says he have it you fold.

              My read on the hand (pre spoiler) would be to call as explained above with the flush draw and KT betting the turn.
              So the only hand in the range i gave him was T8 versus that he has mostly bluffs and you should call.

              On the flipside, seeing how many of these i get to respond to were you go really deep means that you are def doing alot of things correctly and should be very proud of yourself.
              Hope you eliminate the really big mistakes (like the river 3-bet in hand 6) and go somewhere with this card game.

              Hope this was helpful
              1.I also preefer a 3 bet, but this middle pocket pairs are often pain in the Ass to play post flop and I'm not that comfortable playing them unless I hit a set.
              2.i also thinks it's decent, but not a nice hand to play post flop.
              3. The 3 better was a big donkey that accumulated alot of chips then later gave it away. But yeah not a good hand 4 sure to flat with.
              4.they where pretty nitty so I guess a bet here would have been nice. They haven't been 3-betting at all.
              5. I didn't know what to do, I wanted to 3-bet but didn't feel comfortable with it and escalated out of controll. I think I lost tons of value in this hand. Later in this tourney I took them both down. Just a very weird hand.
              6. Yeah c bet would have taken it down I think. I just hoped the check on the turn would make him bet so I could re-raise because this player was kinda weak Imo and the jam was terrible a call would have saved me some chips in this spot.

              Yeah thanks man, really appreciated for the support. in a tourney like this I play around 500 hands+, so 6 of them is a very little sample. And I think it's nice to put out some really bad hands aswell so I can grow and hopefully don't to the same mistakes again.

              I have another one I
              Will put here that I played yesterday and ended at 4th place in a 3.3$ bounty builder.

              I think that overall I play decent but definitely have some leaks where I don't cbet where I should and do some weird cbet that I shouldn't. But yeah I like the progress and my bankroll is growing alot in the last 3 mounths where I have focused alot on poker.

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              01-23-2017 , 02:14 PM
              Quote:
              Originally Posted by HustlerMert
              1.I also preefer a 3 bet, but this middle pocket pairs are often pain in the Ass to play post flop and I'm not that comfortable playing them unless I hit a set.
              2.i also thinks it's decent, but not a nice hand to play post flop.
              3. The 3 better was a big donkey that accumulated alot of chips then later gave it away. But yeah not a good hand 4 sure to flat with.
              4.they where pretty nitty so I guess a bet here would have been nice. They haven't been 3-betting at all.
              5. I didn't know what to do, I wanted to 3-bet but didn't feel comfortable with it and escalated out of controll. I think I lost tons of value in this hand. Later in this tourney I took them both down. Just a very weird hand.
              6. Yeah c bet would have taken it down I think. I just hoped the check on the turn would make him bet so I could re-raise because this player was kinda weak Imo and the jam was terrible a call would have saved me some chips in this spot.

              Yeah thanks man, really appreciated for the support. in a tourney like this I play around 500 hands+, so 6 of them is a very little sample. And I think it's nice to put out some really bad hands aswell so I can grow and hopefully don't to the same mistakes again.

              I have another one I
              Will put here that I played yesterday and ended at 4th place in a 3.3$ bounty builder.

              I think that overall I play decent but definitely have some leaks where I don't cbet where I should and do some weird cbet that I shouldn't. But yeah I like the progress and my bankroll is growing alot in the last 3 mounths where I have focused alot on poker.

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              Just a little reply back
              1: Obv i can see that playing small-medium pairs is not optimal without a set, but you have to play them within you range and if you do that it's not super hard to tell when you're beat.

              2: No, not a super enjoyable hand to play post flop, i agree. But with the bounty in play and you getting such a price, trying to flop super and go with it to maybe win a huge one (but def a bounty) is pretty decent.
              When you miss - Check fold and know that the times you hit good make up for the times you check fold in both cash and chip value.

              3: Just think that even tho he's a massive idiot, flatting or 4-betting with AJ is just a weird play. It looks better than it is in 3 or 4bet pots (not that it even looks super in those) But if you have a dead read on the guy, trust that not the GTO opinion.

              4: When you feel villain is only gonna fight back at you with a 3-bet holding strong hands, this is always a raise. The hand flops pretty good and you can also rep a wide range post flop.

              5: I feel you on this one, finding the "right play" is easier on the forums than on the felt. But it's really only two hands that beat you here, so a 3-bet would in general be the right way to go, you don't have to wonder on later streets and also you get value when ahead.

              6: Absolutely like the plan, think you played the hand fine up until the river shove.


              Hope to be able to review the 4th in the 3.30 with you aswell.
              Keep making deep runs hombre.
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